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37 minutes ago, Tryad said:

how poor are the poorer parts of China, if China has less than 50% more household per capita consumption than piss poor country like India. Nominally China's GDP is about 6times more than India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_household_final_consumption_expenditure_per_capita

China - $6963

India - $4636

you really think they can keep the poorer parts desperate while moving urban parts to best in the world - even better than west? this will lead to unrest.

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58 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

you really think they can keep the poorer parts desperate while moving urban parts to best in the world - even better than west? this will lead to unrest.

how do you explain that low household per capita consumption then?

yeah the Chinese produce more.. but looks like they got a sh1t deal since their consumption is more like a poor nation, than the rich/middle income nation that youtube influencers are desperate to suggest.

 

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56 minutes ago, Tryad said:

how do you explain that low household per capita consumption then?

yeah the Chinese produce more.. but looks like they got a sh1t deal since their consumption is more like a poor nation, than the rich/middle income nation that youtube influencers are desperate to suggest.

 

No idea where those figures come from . India per captia is 2k something - how is rural consumption 4k plus ?

If it is PPP then indian ppp is consistently over esitmated because of dirt cheap but low quality services like hair cut, maids, cooking etc - they are dirt cheap because of the work is not voluntary but forced in to due to caste. In china where human dignity is far higher - these are not cheap. 

Also since they built up infrastructure - all services will be high quality without any effort from labor. The electricity is always there, water quality is higher etc.

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8 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

No idea where those figures come from . India per captia is 2k something - how is rural consumption 4k plus ?

It is PPP household consumption per capita.. calculates household purchases, rents etc. the possible explanation would be India has on average larger family sizes compared to China and this pushes the number closer to China

but still the Chinese average is closer to Nigeria than to Korea.

which means either the data is wrong (unlikely coz the source is world bank), or the majority of Chinese are piss poor, inspite of what they show the world as achievements of their civilization.

8 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

Also since they built up infrastructure - all services will be high quality without any effort from labor. The electricity is always there, water quality is higher etc.

it doesn't matter. Chinese spend only about 50% more than Indians as a family unit, while their GDP in ppp terms is about 3 times higer. Its that simple. Is it because they save higher, or because they can't spend more because they are piss poor, you have to tell me with data.

8 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

If it is PPP then indian ppp is consistently over esitmated because of dirt cheap but low quality services like hair cut, maids, cooking etc - they are dirt cheap because of the work is not voluntary but forced in to due to caste. In china where human dignity is far higher - these are not cheap. 

dude.. how does this matter? you still haven't understood that GDP is not a calculation of production, but mostly investment and consumption. No one denies China produces a sh1t ton of things the world wants. But what did they get in return for it?

being clubbed with India in their ability to spend as a family. And we all know how piss poor India is. which leads us to infer that all these flashy buildings in China are not even close to representative of the majority who spend only as much as a piss poor country like Indonesia.

In other words, China is a lot like India. More than you realize. In both imposing Mandarin (Hindi) on its population, and in keeping majority of their population poor.

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2 hours ago, Tryad said:

It is PPP household consumption per capita.. calculates household purchases, rents etc. the possible explanation would be India has on average larger family sizes compared to China and this pushes the number closer to China

but still the Chinese average is closer to Nigeria than to Korea.

which means either the data is wrong (unlikely coz the source is world bank), or the majority of Chinese are piss poor, inspite of what they show the world as achievements of their civilization.

it doesn't matter. Chinese spend only about 50% more than Indians as a family unit, while their GDP in ppp terms is about 3 times higer. Its that simple. Is it because they save higher, or because they can't spend more because they are piss poor, you have to tell me with data.

dude.. how does this matter? you still haven't understood that GDP is not a calculation of production, but mostly investment and consumption. No one denies China produces a sh1t ton of things the world wants. But what did they get in return for it?

being clubbed with India in their ability to spend as a family. And we all know how piss poor India is. which leads us to infer that all these flashy buildings in China are not even close to representative of the majority who spend only as much as a piss poor country like Indonesia.

In other words, China is a lot like India. More than you realize. In both imposing Mandarin (Hindi) on its population, and in keeping majority of their population poor.

Keep worshipping a number.

If you want to really know - look at their consumptions. Look at the electricity used in china, number of cars sold - they sell almost twice the number of BMWs than in us. same with mercs etc.

Also look at the innuermable vlogs on chinese lives. They eat FAR  more meat, twice the number of vegetables than india per capita, twice the number of grain than an average indian.

But again i hardly doubt anything will make an impression on you. You are way irrational. And you still dont know what is GDP. And you deny it becase you need the irrationality to feed the narcissim.

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6 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

Keep worshipping a number.

If you want to really know - look at their consumptions. Look at the electricity used in china, number of cars sold - they sell almost twice the number of BMWs than in us. same with mercs etc.

Also look at the innuermable vlogs on chinese lives. They eat FAR  more meat, twice the number of vegetables than india per capital, twice the number of grain than an average indian.

But again i hardly doubt anything will make an impression on you. You are way irrational. And you still dont know what is GDP. And you deny it becase you need the irrationality to feed the narcissim.

huge electricity consumption is perhaps because of the things they produce for the world, for which they are paid a pittance..

number of cars high end cars shows there are plenty of capitalists that got rich off exploiting majority regular chinese, who live at a very low consumption level like India, Nigeria, indonesia etc.

innumerable vlogs that concentrate on display of wealth shows what?

yeah, they eat far more meat, veggies and yet their percapita consumption, that includes other things like rent, clothing, entertainment, cars (including your expensive bmws), expenditure on financial intermediaries etc is hardly 50% more than India's on aggregate. Just shows China is probably worse off than India in inequality.

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I was actually incorrect. India consumes 89 kilos of Veggies per capita whereas chinese consume whopping 384 kilograms. They even have better logistics with reduce wastage.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita

In meat consumption an average chinese consume nearly 10 TIMES MORE.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type

Even in basic grain consumption an average chinese consumes more than two times an average indian

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3 minutes ago, Tryad said:

huge electricity consumption is perhaps because of the things they produce for the world, for which they are paid a pittance..

number of cars high end cars shows there are plenty of capitalists that got rich off exploiting majority regular chinese, who live at a very low consumption level like India, Nigeria, indonesia etc.

innumerable vlogs that concentrate on display of wealth shows what?

yeah, they eat far more meat, veggies and yet their percapita consumption, that includes other things like rent, clothing, entertainment, cars (including your expensive bmws), expenditure on financial intermediaries etc is hardly 50% more than India's on aggregate. Just shows China is probably worse off than India in inequality.

They have all sorts of cars - high end, low end and middle end. In every sector they outplay even us.

And no one sees cars as rich people vehicle in us. And this many cars despite having an excellent and unparralled public transportation.

Dude:

They eat as much as any rich country

They live as long as any wealthy country

Their literacy rates are at the top.

What more human development does one need ?

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