Telangana racism in 60s and 2000s

[Allasaani_Peddana]

5 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Maadi SDNR….ipudu new borders tarvata Shamshabad district ayindi kani Palamoor is Palamoor for ever..

Avunu. Kaani summer lo NeeLLa ibbandi. Sachhetollam Boring kotti kotti. My relatives were in Teachers colony in MBNR. It was just before entering MBNR bus station. Request stop.

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, rushmore said:

The concept ritual purification is there in every ancient religion starting from Hinduism to Judaism to Islam with Judaism being the strictest of the three monotheistic religions as Orthodox Jews follow 613 commandments. Hinduism being the oldest of all prescribed strict religious practices to Brahmins who are practising Priesthood. The reason it was imposed in any religion is that they're attributing sanctity to the idol(Hinduism, Christianity) or scrolls( as In Judaism) they're worshipping. So, it is expected of them to "maintain" sanctity of the place which is either a Temple, Synagougue or Mecca or Madinah. It is expected of the Brahmins practising as Priests to follow the rituals by other Hindus from different castes. However, with the thousands of Temples across India including many of those folk & tribal gods, it's not always the case to have a Priest who learned Vedas. For example, In AP, Telangana there are "Koya Doralu" who have their own rituals & are Priests themselves one such example being the very famous Samakka-Saarakka temple. 

But if you look into other prominent religions, you could not enter the Jewish Holy of Holies if you were not a Levite (not even all Jews could enter, in fact there were careful gradations of closeness depending on person) — were that Temple still in existence that is. You cannot enter the places in Japanese Shinto shrines were the Kami reside in ritual purity, usually.

"A simple question being will the head priest of the most revered temple in India , say like Tirumala Tirupati devasthanam will ever appoint a non brahmin by birth (I'm not even specifying any other caste) as it's head priest, if the non brahmin is as versed as a Sri vaishnava ?  Was someone like dollar seshadri preferred to when he was a corrupt chemcha just because he was a brahmin?"

This is a very good point. Like I said in my previous post, let us post non-Brahmins irrespective of caste who pursued Vedas as the high Priest of the Tirumala Temple or any other temple for that matter. What about those who are already employed as Priests by the temple? Let's us replace traditional Brahmins with those from Non-Brahmin vedic priests. What are we going to do with the kids pursuing Vedas to which they dedicated their childhood ? Is the government going to provide them reservation in jobs & educational institutions & even reserved-seats like constituencies like for those SC/STs or BCs? If yes, then it's worth giving it a chance & see how well things work. 

However, take Islam for example, they have two most sacred places Mecca which where holy Kabbah is located & in Medinah .

But who can maintain the holy Kabbah which is the most sacred in Islam? The Bani Shaiba
Why?

The Bani Shaiba or the sons of Shaiba are the tribe that hold the keys to the Kaaba today. They are in charge of the 'Sudnah' of the Kaaba which means the complete care of it including opening and closing it, cleaning and washing it, and caring for its Kiswah or cladding.

History: The keys to the Kaaba were bestowed on Tasm, a tribe of ʿĀd before Quraysh. It passed to Khuza'a, then Qusai, who gave it to his son Abdul Dar, who handed it over to his son Othman. It shifted from one person to another until it rested with their nephew Shaiba. It is still inherited by their successors.[citation needed] Muhammad, the Islamic prophet, handed the keys to Bani Shaiba in the year of the conquest of Mecca, and said, "Take it, O Bani Talha, eternally up to the Day of Resurrection, and it will not be taken from you unless by an unjust, oppressive tyrant".[6] A free standing arch stood where the houses of Banu Shaybah were located near the Kabah until it was removed circa 1950 CE to expand the Mataf area.

Those who demand that non Brahmins be placed in the most sacred Temples as priests, why don't you also ask same for other religions like Islam? Why are the Pasaanda community of Islam who were Dalits Hindus converted into Islam be the Imams of Jama Masjid?or as Imam of Makkah Masjid of Hyderabad?  Why only Bukharis (ancestral origin of Bukhara) are allowed to be the Imams of Jama Masjid? 

Shias can't enter Sunni mosques. Sunnis can't enter Shia mosques. Ahmadis can't enter either!

Ask yourself  @Telugodura456 @CanadianMalodu- Are you well equipped with facts before you train your guns at Brahmins as being the sole perpetrators of all the evils in Hinduism?!
 

 

I didn't aim my guns at Brahmins. But the reality as to how hierarchy among the castes prevail in the society, has something to do with Brahminism. Sure, there were influences from Islam and Europeans but at the end of the day, Brahminism is subscribing to the doctrine of purity by birth which has led to the mess of entire caste system.

You have cited samakka and sarakka, but did you forget China Jeeyar, who blatantly refused to acknowledge them ? 

I agree with you on Muslims part. Ashraffs don't marry others because they want maintain purity of the Arabic blood. 

 

 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

I didn't aim my guns at Brahmins. But the reality as to how hierarchy among the castes prevail in the society, has something to do with Brahminism. Sure, there were influences from Islam and Europeans but at the end of the day, Brahminism is subscribing to the doctrine of purity by birth which has led to the mess of entire caste system.

You have cited samakka and sarakka, but did you forget China Jeeyar, who blatantly refused to acknowledge them ? 

I agree with you on Muslims part. Ashraffs don't marry others because they want maintain purity of the Arabic blood. 

 

 

I don't think he has any authority over anybody to accept or deny. If he refuses to acknowledge, he's entitled to it. The devotees of Samakka Sarakka can equally deny or ignore Chinna Jeeyar. There are millions of Hindus who worship Sai Baba at the same time there are many who refuse to accept him.If you go back into the history,  Vaishnava and Shaivite sects had a bloody conflict taking lives of thousands. 

Anti-Brahminism:

According to Gelders and Delders, the structure of present-day anti-Brahminism has its roots in 19th century India and colonial views on the position and influence of Brahmins. 19th century colonial rulers viewed India's culture as corrupt and degenerate, and its population irrational. In this view, derived from a Protestant Christian understanding of religion, rooted in the Protestant opposition against the Catholic Church, the original "God-given religion" was corrupted by (Catholic) priests, which was extended by comparison to the Brahmins in India, and the Brahmin-dominated type of Hinduism, for which the term "Brahminism" was used, was supposedly imposed on the Indian population.

[CanadianMalodu]

18 minutes ago, rushmore said:

I don't think he has any authority over anybody to accept or deny. If he refuses to acknowledge, he's entitled to it. The devotees of Samakka Sarakka can equally deny or ignore Chinna Jeeyar. There are millions of Hindus who worship Sai Baba at the same time there are many who refuse to accept him.If you go back into the history,  Vaishnava and Shaivite sects had a bloody conflict taking lives of thousands. 

Anti-Brahminism:

According to Gelders and Delders, the structure of present-day anti-Brahminism has its roots in 19th century India and colonial views on the position and influence of Brahmins. 19th century colonial rulers viewed India's culture as corrupt and degenerate, and its population irrational. In this view, derived from a Protestant Christian understanding of religion, rooted in the Protestant opposition against the Catholic Church, the original "God-given religion" was corrupted by (Catholic) priests, which was extended by comparison to the Brahmins in India, and the Brahmin-dominated type of Hinduism, for which the term "Brahminism" was used, was supposedly imposed on the Indian population.

So how exactly did caste system manifest in reality before Gelders and Delders?

[Allasaani_Peddana]

Class system always existed through out human history. Only Macedonia at certain point in time did not have it. In India, it manifested as caste system. Rest of the world there was slavery. Saudi Arabia abolished slavery in 1962. Either we learn from the past, make amendments and move on and improve lives or simple choke on nostalgia and die.

[Telugodura456]

11 hours ago, MrDexter said:

Happy ga kalisi unde chance ledhu ani nenu analedu. Ala ekkada anipinchindi neeku? Just technical merger of two states at state level impossible annanu. 
 

All I am saying is kalisi undham happy ga with each other at individual level. No confusion. No hatred. Don’t try to rub your hatred on me. I am verbally stating my point. If you can’t understand what can I do? 

ok pakka anni contradictory statements isthu ("emotional merger not technical merger anta") ..naaku clarity undhi clarity undhi  ..ani bukaisthe evaru em chepthaaru. 

[Telugodura456]

One more thing johnny come lately fellow @MrDexter - yedho nannu hate promote antunnav. half my relatives are from telangana. Nobody minds criticism of telangana sepratism. 

And only complete idiot calls someone asking for people to live together as spreading hate.

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