ఈ సనాతన ధర్మం ఏంటి?

[JackSeal]

గత కొన్నేళ్లనుంచి ఈ మధ్యకాలంలోనే హిందూమతానికి పర్యాయపదంగా ఈ సనాతన పదం వాడుతున్నారు. హిందూ అనే పదం విదేశీయులు పెట్టిందని, పురాతన గ్రంథాల్లో ఈ పదం లేదని విమర్శించేసరికి, సనాతన (పురాతన, eternal) ధర్మం అని చెప్పడం మొదలు పెట్టారు. సనాతన ధర్మం అనేదే లేదు. ఉన్న కన్ఫ్యూషన్ సరిపోక, సధ అని ఇంకో గందరగోళం.

[Spartan]

సనాతన ధర్మం -> Eternal Nature of Human Species

[pushparaj]

Religion is a western concept. Aa concept lone Hinduism kuda oka religion ani anukuntunnam/ anukuntunnaru(especially westerners)

 

asalu memu follow ayedhi Hinduism kaadhu sanathana dharma ani clarity esthunnam eppudu. 

[JackSeal]

6 minutes ago, Spartan said:

సనాతన ధర్మం -> Eternal Nature of Human Species

Not asking english meaning ... 

1) సనాతన ధర్మం అంటే ఏమిటి? హిందూ ధర్మానికి సనాతన ధర్మానికి తేడా ఎంటి?
2) సనాతన ధర్మం అంటూ ఒకటి ఉంటే , దానికి ప్రామాణికం అయిన గ్రంధాలు ఎంటి? 

[Spartan]

Just now, JackSeal said:

Not asking english meaning ... 

1) సనాతన ధర్మం అంటే ఏమిటి? హిందూ ధర్మానికి సనాతన ధర్మానికి తేడా ఎంటి?
2) సనాతన ధర్మం అంటూ ఒకటి ఉంటే , దానికి ప్రామాణికం అయిన గ్రంధాలు ఎంటి? 

1) Hinduism ki daniki link ye ledu..

2) The phrase dharma sanātana occurs in classical Sanskrit literature, for example, in the Manusmrti (4-138)^[7] (c. 1st – 3rd century CE) and in the Bhagavata Purana^[8][9] (c. 8th – 10th century CE)

[JackSeal]

2 minutes ago, pushparaj said:

Religion is a western concept. Aa concept lone Hinduism kuda oka religion ani anukuntunnam/ anukuntunnaru(especially westerners)

 

asalu memu follow ayedhi Hinduism kaadhu sanathana dharma ani clarity esthunnam eppudu. 

Is sanatha dharmam ever evolving and adapt changes ? 

[Spartan]

Just now, JackSeal said:

Is sanatha dharmam ever evolving and adapt changes ? 

no...it is a guideline to lead a life...

malli dantlo evolving enduku....?

if a christian/muslim is following the guidelines (helping other humans, etc sort of guidelines...he is following sanatana dharma...in other words).

[galiraju]

I think it is a way to distinguish Hinduism from other organized religions. Since Hinduism has no single head, organization, or book. So by calling it Dharma and thus trying to prevent fitting it into the Western template of "religion." 

[JackSeal]

19 minutes ago, Spartan said:

1) Hinduism ki daniki link ye ledu..

2) The phrase dharma sanātana occurs in classical Sanskrit literature, for example, in the Manusmrti (4-138)^[7] (c. 1st – 3rd century CE) and in the Bhagavata Purana^[8][9] (c. 8th – 10th century CE)

Manusmrti is a symbol of inequality and defines occupations of each varna. If Sanatana Dharma is based on Manusmrti then why one should follow and encourage such inequality.

Manusmrti proponents telling people move across varna ladders but last 1000 years  lo sudrudu aeina brahmin ne chupinchu ?

For example swami viveknanda said (page: 536):

You will be astonished if I tell you that, according to the old ceremonials, he is not a good Hindu who does not eat beef. On certain occasions he must sacrifice a bull and eat it That is disgusting now.

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.99641/page/n549/mode/1up

According to manusmriti eating beef is not wrong but why killing people who eat beef ? 
 

Evadki kavalsinattu vadu anvainchukoni dhanni sanatana dharma antunnaru epudu.

[JackSeal]

30 minutes ago, Spartan said:

no...it is a guideline to lead a life...

malli dantlo evolving enduku....?

if a christian/muslim is following the guidelines (helping other humans, etc sort of guidelines...he is following sanatana dharma...in other words).

Change is inevitable ... if it is not changing then it becomes irrelevant. Why people care about irrelevant ?

[galiraju]

1 minute ago, JackSeal said:

Manusmrti is a symbol of inequality and defines occupations of each varna. If Sanatana Dharma is based on Manusmrti then why one should follow and encourage such inequality.

Manusmrti proponents telling people move across varna ladders but last 1000 years  lo sudrudu aeina brahmin ne chupinchu ?

For example swami viveknanda said (page: 536):

You will be astonished if I tell you that, according to the old ceremonials, he is not a good Hindu who does not eat beef. On certain occasions he must sacrifice a bull and eat it That is disgusting now.

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.99641/page/n549/mode/1up

According to manusmriti eating beef is not wrong but why killing people who eat beef ? 
 

Evadki kavalsinattu vadu anvainchukoni dhanni sanatana dharma antunnaru epudu.

As far as I know, India is one of the largest exporters of beef. Also, desivali cows are only not touchable for consumption anukunta. But masses ni control cheyatam kastam

[Spartan]

4 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

Manusmrti is a symbol of inequality and defines occupations of each varna. If Sanatana Dharma is based on Manusmrti then why one should follow and encourage such inequality.

Manusmrti proponents telling people move across varna ladders but last 1000 years  lo sudrudu aeina brahmin ne chupinchu ?

For example swami viveknanda said (page: 536):

You will be astonished if I tell you that, according to the old ceremonials, he is not a good Hindu who does not eat beef. On certain occasions he must sacrifice a bull and eat it That is disgusting now.

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.99641/page/n549/mode/1up

According to manusmriti eating beef is not wrong but why killing people who eat beef ? 
 

Evadki kavalsinattu vadu anvainchukoni dhanni sanatana dharma antunnaru epudu.

 

Manusmriti lo mention chesaru ani undi kaani....Manusmriti did not define the Sanatana Dharma...

Sanatana dharma doesnt prevent you from eating any animal... thats way of life to survive. dantlo astonishing em ledu.

 

 

Evadki kavalsinattu vadu anvainchukoni dhanni sanatana dharma antunnaru epudu. ---  idi correct.
    Hindus say they follow Sanatana Dharma.. Critics say.. Sanatana Dharma is Hinduism..

 

Today, Sanatana Dharma is associated only with Hinduism. In current-day usage, the term sanatana dharma is diminished and used to emphasize a "traditional” or sanatani ("eternalist") outlook in contrast to the socio-political Hinduism embraced by movements such as the Arya Samaj. In sharp contrast to the efforts by Lahore Sanatana Dharma Sabha to preserve the Hindu tradition against the onslaught of reform, now it is being stressed that Sanatana Dharma cannot be rigid, it has to be inclusive without excluding the best and totality of knowledge to guide the karmic process, especially as Sanatana has no beginning and no end.

 

[Spartan]

2 minutes ago, JackSeal said:

Change is inevitable ... if it is not changing then it becomes irrelevant. Why people care about irrelevant ?

give example...which change you want the way of life which is not covered under it.

[galiraju]

36 minutes ago, Spartan said:

no...it is a guideline to lead a life...

malli dantlo evolving enduku....?

if a christian/muslim is following the guidelines (helping other humans, etc sort of guidelines...he is following sanatana dharma...in other words).

It must evolve based on the current society. For instance, the varna system is slowly becoming irrelevant. Because most of the people are educated, we all work in the same workplace. The lines that divide us are no longer relevant. I think Hindu books more or less assert this too. Not all yugas follow the same Dharmas. Dharma evolves based on society. 

[Spartan]

2 minutes ago, galiraju said:

It must evolve based on the current society. For instance, the varna system is slowly becoming irrelevant. Because most of the people are educated, we all work in the same workplace. The lines that divide us are no longer relevant. I think Hindu books more or less assert this too. Not all yugas follow the same Dharmas. Dharma evolves based on society. 

 

Varna System was defined in Manusmruti ---  Not Sanatana Dharma.

Sanatana Dharma said you need to be clean to maintain healthy life. Not segregate people who clean your filth..

both are two different things.