how natural alliances works in politics

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26 minutes ago, Mancode said:

not evan all cops , he has fans in other casettes too 

but he is like vijaykanth in tamilnadu , i heard somebody sayin that in db 

he can influence lot of his caste votes when he allies with someone , like vijaykanth rose upto 1 in 2006 to 29 in 2011  ,when he allied with jayalalitha, pk  may repeat the feat , and eventually he falls once he breaks alliance 

he is not JDS to contest independly and get 30-40 seats unlike pilla sainks and DB cops peel , he is DMDK vijaykanth ap version  , ofcourse vijaykanth is cop too , a very good man and philanthropist like peekay @Mr Mirchi @bharathicement

You cannot compare AP politics with any other State's mate. Thats as simple.

PK lost lot of cop's confidence by re-aligning with TDP in last 3 weeks. The timing of his announcement of his collaboration with TDP on the same day Chamba was arrested is not liked by many hardcore Cops.

As per our relatives and frends in Bhimavaram and G'waaka, PK actually won both places. With the support from Central Govt, votes calculation was maligned..

TDP is a party in decline - both politically and morally. At the same time, YSRCP is not a party, its just One-Person managed Company. The moment Yesu Reddy is thrown out of power, he will be killed.

There is lot of Anti-incumbency .. Lower middle class and poorer sections are ultra-emotional about Yesu, but from Middle class to the top, everyone is hating for what Yesu is doing to their finances.

But the way Yesu is running the State -- for sure it will be Bihar by 2029. Lets see how Yesu can manage State's finances once Modi dies or retires in 2026 (He will retire in 2026 even if he wins in 2024)

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, Mancode said:

so we talk about natural alliances in politics works with examples

sp/bsp is not a natural ally , so bsp votes didnt transferred to sp for 2019 loksabha elections, where sp has loyal cadre so their votes transferred

bcoz of there of lot of animosity btw cadre

congress-tdp alliance in 2018 ts assembly elections didnt helped anybody much , reason decades of rivalry btw them

and coming to jdU and bjp through the line , nitish shunted out of janata dal by lalu , so he started JDU and made alliance with Bjp , bcoz of lot of janataies(socialists) joined bjp after janata party collapse , they had smooth sailing mutual votes transferred and nitish  became cm 4 times , until he ditched bjp to ally rjd and comeback again , so that costed him in 2021 bihar assembly elections he lost 20 odds seats in near margins , bjp cadre made that happen 

tdp-janasenaa are natural allies , proved in 2014 assembly and loksabha elections, pawan had 3 vote share then according to estimates without a party, it transferred smoothly to tdp and ofcourse bjp too

now necessity is invention for both parties , it will much smooth within voters , but some are fearing cadre debbayochu jsp ki ani bcoz of anti C in their cadre lot of them are cops but , i dont think so ... 

tdp and bjp are also natural allies so even if all three ally vote transfer is certainly possible bcoz they are on and off since 1989

what do u think @rushmore

TDP and BJP are not natural allies. Remember at the end of the day, all the regional parties are modelled after Congress with few families of the dominant caste( that's caste with access to land, financial and numerical resources, not necessarily varna hierarchy)  families at the helm. You will find landed gentry castes(some fall under OBCs too) running things. For TDP it's Nara-Nandamooris, YSRCP - YSR family, JDS-Devegowda family, DMK- Karunanidhi-Maran families, AIDMK -used to be Sasikala family who were Thevars, although Jayalalitha led it from the front, BRS Dora and his family, SP -Mulayam Yadav, so on so forth. 

As these families came to rule after tussle with Congress and or Usurping Congress at some point of time. But the basic structure was modelled after Congress. They allied with BJP only to defeat Congress and take the reigns of power. This model worked as long as BJP was not in expansionist mode. But, BJP is determined to expand itself to hold power across all states in the country. These parties cannot align themselves with BJP for a long time. It's either fight and win or take pittance given to them by the BJP. Which is why, TDP supporters are cheering for Congress win in Telangana and want to align with BJP in centre when it comes to Andhra politics. But Modi and Shah are unlikely to forgive Baboru stance so long as they are aligned with Congress as they did in last election. That's a direct threat to their expansionist plans.

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1 hour ago, Mancode said:

so we talk about natural alliances in politics works with examples

sp/bsp is not a natural ally , so bsp votes didnt transferred to sp for 2019 loksabha elections, where sp has loyal cadre so their votes transferred

bcoz of there of lot of animosity btw cadre

congress-tdp alliance in 2018 ts assembly elections didnt helped anybody much , reason decades of rivalry btw them

and coming to jdU and bjp through the line , nitish shunted out of janata dal by lalu , so he started JDU and made alliance with Bjp , bcoz of lot of janataies(socialists) joined bjp after janata party collapse , they had smooth sailing mutual votes transferred and nitish  became cm 4 times , until he ditched bjp to ally rjd and comeback again , so that costed him in 2021 bihar assembly elections he lost 20 odds seats in near margins , bjp cadre made that happen 

tdp-janasenaa are natural allies , proved in 2014 assembly and loksabha elections, pawan had 3 vote share then according to estimates without a party, it transferred smoothly to tdp and ofcourse bjp too

now necessity is invention for both parties , it will much smooth within voters , but some are fearing cadre debbayochu jsp ki ani bcoz of anti C in their cadre lot of them are cops but , i dont think so ... 

tdp and bjp are also natural allies so even if all three ally vote transfer is certainly possible bcoz they are on and off since 1989

what do u think @rushmore

This will not happen again.

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12 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

TDP and BJP are not natural allies. Remember at the end of the day, all the regional parties are modelled after Congress with few families of the dominant caste( that's caste with access to land, financial and numerical resources, not necessarily varna hierarchy)  families at the helm. You will find landed gentry castes(some fall under OBCs too) running things. For TDP it's Nara-Nandamooris, YSRCP - YSR family, JDS-Devegowda family, DMK- Karunanidhi-Maran families, AIDMK -used to be Sasikala family who were Thevars, although Jayalalitha led it from the front, BRS Dora and his family, SP -Mulayam Yadav, so on so forth. 

As these families came to rule after tussle with Congress and or Usurping Congress at some point of time. But the basic structure was modelled after Congress. They allied with BJP only to defeat Congress and take the reigns of power. This model worked as long as BJP was not in expansionist mode. But, BJP is determined to expand itself to hold power across all states in the country. This these parties cannot align themselves with BJP for a long time. It's either fight and win or take pittance given to them by the BJP. Which is why, TDP supporters are cheering for Congress win in Telangana and want to align with BJP in centre when it comes to Andhra politics. But Modi and Shah are unlikely to forgive Baboru stance so long as they are aligned with Congress as they did in last election. That's a direct threat to their expansionist plans.

Maree Amit Shah meeda rallu visereyinchaadu Babu goru, Modi ni narahanthakudu ani annadu. 2003 lo eppudaithe Modi ni jail lo pedatha annado appati nunchi personal gaa teesukunnadu. Appatiki 2014 lo Modi wave lo Babugaru just alaga gelichaaru. Inka 2019 taruvaata kuda Babu ni entertain cheste Modi ayithadu picchodu.

[Mancode]

20 minutes ago, rushmore said:

This will not happen again.

hmm

[Mancode]

32 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

TDP and BJP are not natural allies. Remember at the end of the day, all the regional parties are modelled after Congress with few families of the dominant caste( that's caste with access to land, financial and numerical resources, not necessarily varna hierarchy)  families at the helm. You will find landed gentry castes(some fall under OBCs too) running things. For TDP it's Nara-Nandamooris, YSRCP - YSR family, JDS-Devegowda family, DMK- Karunanidhi-Maran families, AIDMK -used to be Sasikala family who were Thevars, although Jayalalitha led it from the front, BRS Dora and his family, SP -Mulayam Yadav, so on so forth. 

As these families came to rule after tussle with Congress and or Usurping Congress at some point of time. But the basic structure was modelled after Congress. They allied with BJP only to defeat Congress and take the reigns of power. This model worked as long as BJP was not in expansionist mode. But, BJP is determined to expand itself to hold power across all states in the country. These parties cannot align themselves with BJP for a long time. It's either fight and win or take pittance given to them by the BJP. Which is why, TDP supporters are cheering for Congress win in Telangana and want to align with BJP in centre when it comes to Andhra politics. But Modi and Shah are unlikely to forgive Baboru stance so long as they are aligned with Congress as they did in last election. That's a direct threat to their expansionist plans.

what ur saying is lot of info

but if just see who votes for bjp and tdp its the same OBC and UC voters ,... so that will consolidate with some SC/ST votes and its enough, natural allies not only means chemistry btw leaders , chemistry in votebanks too

[Mancode]

35 minutes ago, bharathicement said:

You cannot compare AP politics with any other State's mate. Thats as simple.

PK lost lot of cop's confidence by re-aligning with TDP in last 3 weeks. The timing of his announcement of his collaboration with TDP on the same day Chamba was arrested is not liked by many hardcore Cops.

As per our relatives and frends in Bhimavaram and G'waaka, PK actually won both places. With the support from Central Govt, votes calculation was maligned..

TDP is a party in decline - both politically and morally. At the same time, YSRCP is not a party, its just One-Person managed Company. The moment Yesu Reddy is thrown out of power, he will be killed.

There is lot of Anti-incumbency .. Lower middle class and poorer sections are ultra-emotional about Yesu, but from Middle class to the top, everyone is hating for what Yesu is doing to their finances.

But the way Yesu is running the State -- for sure it will be Bihar by 2029. Lets see how Yesu can manage State's finances once Modi dies or retires in 2026 (He will retire in 2026 even if he wins in 2024)

lets see