how natural alliances works in politics

[CanadianMalodu]

2 minutes ago, Mancode said:

what ur saying is lot of info

but if just see who votes for bjp and tdp its the same OBC and UC voters ,... so that will consolidate with some SC/ST votes and its enough, natural allies not only means chemistry btw leaders , chemistry in votebanks too

Which is why the fight for replacement. If TDP shuts down, then BJP will take over TDP's role in Telugu states. That's what expansion means. 

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, Mancode said:

so you saying cops votes didnt transferred to tdp in 2014 from janasena ..accchaaa

Did JSP had any vote share in 2014 ? This is a question which will never have an answer…Anti-Congress was very strong in AP in 2014 and with resurgent BJP, Jagan’s party is nothing but Congress’s inheritance has dented Jagan’s fortune. 

Cops votes to JSP May be a factor but not a significant factor that could have turned the tide. 

[Android_Halwa]

Vaarahi yatra ki vachina public vote vesthe deposit vastayi kastam ga…geluvali ante inka chana cheyali. 

inka 6 months vunayi, ipudu yatra ki vache pubkic antha niku ae vote vestaru anukunte porapaate

You haven’t yet said what you will do if voted to power, your only point in ‘anti-YSRCP’ thapa inko election point ae ledu…

The more he concentrates on cop centric, the more he loses with other castes else where. Intha chinna Logic etla marichinav vaa

[reality]

1 hour ago, Mancode said:

tdp-janasenaa are natural allies , proved in 2014 assembly and loksabha elections, pawan had 3 vote share then

 Rofl

[Mancode]

17 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Did JSP had any vote share in 2014 ? This is a question which will never have an answer…Anti-Congress was very strong in AP in 2014 and with resurgent BJP, Jagan’s party is nothing but Congress’s inheritance has dented Jagan’s fortune. 

Cops votes to JSP May be a factor but not a significant factor that could have turned the tide. 

ex PRP vote antha emaindantav bro

Just now, reality said:

 Rofl

 

[Mancode]

21 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Which is why the fight for replacement. If TDP shuts down, then BJP will take over TDP's role in Telugu states. That's what expansion means. 

expansio anedi different topic , ikkada only vote transfer gurinche matladtunam ipati varaku

[reality]

1 minute ago, Mancode said:

ex PRP vote antha emaindantav bro

 

its not magic vaa..

rail engine ki esinollu andaru cycle ki vestharani anukovadam.,, that too 5 year old party ayina kuda rendu chotla odipoye antha charisma unna pawala gadi ni chusi… party petti 2 months ki…inka impossibile.

[Android_Halwa]

2 minutes ago, Mancode said:

ex PRP vote antha emaindantav bro

 

Electoral politics la hypothetical situations tho pothe Bhimavaram gajuwaka ae ayitadi…PRP never had any vote share before 2009 and what ever they had in 2009 was from Congress and TDP, which might have moved back to its mother party in 2014. AP was in a confused state post bifurcation and vote banks and share traditional ga count chese scope ledu 2014 lo..

[Mancode]

2 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Electoral politics la hypothetical situations tho pothe Bhimavaram gajuwaka ae ayitadi…PRP never had any vote share before 2009 and what ever they had in 2009 was from Congress and TDP, which might have moved back to its mother party in 2014. AP was in a confused state post bifurcation and vote banks and share traditional ga count chese scope ledu 2014 lo..

true anduke worst estimates icha , only which runs o pk name 2-3%

[HugoStrange]

3 hours ago, Mancode said:

so we talk about natural alliances in politics works with examples

sp/bsp is not a natural ally , so bsp votes didnt transferred to sp for 2019 loksabha elections, where sp has loyal cadre so their votes transferred

bcoz of there of lot of animosity btw cadre

congress-tdp alliance in 2018 ts assembly elections didnt helped anybody much , reason decades of rivalry btw them

and coming to jdU and bjp through the line , nitish shunted out of janata dal by lalu , so he started JDU and made alliance with Bjp , bcoz of lot of janataies(socialists) joined bjp after janata party collapse , they had smooth sailing mutual votes transferred and nitish  became cm 4 times , until he ditched bjp to ally rjd and comeback again , so that costed him in 2021 bihar assembly elections he lost 20 odds seats in near margins , bjp cadre made that happen 

tdp-janasenaa are natural allies , proved in 2014 assembly and loksabha elections, pawan had 3 vote share then according to estimates without a party, it transferred smoothly to tdp and ofcourse bjp too

now necessity is invention for both parties , it will much smooth within voters , but some are fearing cadre debbayochu jsp ki ani bcoz of anti C in their cadre lot of them are cops but , i dont think so ... 

tdp and bjp are also natural allies so even if all three ally vote transfer is certainly possible bcoz they are on and off since 1989

what do u think @rushmore

equal partner or atleast 1/3rd seats anna isthe nee logic koncham anna pani chesthundi, TDP vallu malli musti vesinattu 10% seats or 15% seats istharu. Appudu thoka party and gelisthe permanent ga thoka party ga migilipothundi ani vese vallu kuda veyaru. TDP valla gurinchi telisinde ga, votes transfer ayyi ekkuva seats gelisthe ekkada chinna babu ki poti vasthado ani aa party ki veyaru. 

[pizzaaddict]

1 hour ago, Mancode said:

what ur saying is lot of info

but if just see who votes for bjp and tdp its the same OBC and UC voters ,... so that will consolidate with some SC/ST votes and its enough, natural allies not only means chemistry btw leaders , chemistry in votebanks too

Anna mangalavaram muchatlu tarvatha , pk cops vote consolidate cheyalgalada ? Daniki Inka casette amiti Ani escape avali . Pulkas do support tdp on same and valla tho alliance petukuni , Maku casette vadhu antey . End of the day edhavalu evaru ayitunaru ? Cops veyaka , obc veyaka, obviously pulkas veyaka 

Dabbulu pancharu , nenu digitey manishi ni kanu , Inka casette amiti 2023 lo anti dialogues cheppadam . 

[pizzaaddict]

2 hours ago, bharathicement said:

You cannot compare AP politics with any other State's mate. Thats as simple.

PK lost lot of cop's confidence by re-aligning with TDP in last 3 weeks. The timing of his announcement of his collaboration with TDP on the same day Chamba was arrested is not liked by many hardcore Cops.

As per our relatives and frends in Bhimavaram and G'waaka, PK actually won both places. With the support from Central Govt, votes calculation was maligned..

TDP is a party in decline - both politically and morally. At the same time, YSRCP is not a party, its just One-Person managed Company. The moment Yesu Reddy is thrown out of power, he will be killed.

There is lot of Anti-incumbency .. Lower middle class and poorer sections are ultra-emotional about Yesu, but from Middle class to the top, everyone is hating for what Yesu is doing to their finances.

But the way Yesu is running the State -- for sure it will be Bihar by 2029. Lets see how Yesu can manage State's finances once Modi dies or retires in 2026 (He will retire in 2026 even if he wins in 2024)

Alliance peda debba pk ki in terms of identity. Buffoon avakunda untey ok . He is good person and at least MLA ga ayina gelvali. It will be fun to see him in assembly along with jagga and CBN . Hope he will speak on issues 

Kani eedu choostey , alliance Ani , bjp Ani , tdp Ani dramas saripotunayi  

[Mancode]

2 hours ago, reality said:

its not magic vaa..

rail engine ki esinollu andaru cycle ki vestharani anukovadam.,, that too 5 year old party ayina kuda rendu chotla odipoye antha charisma unna pawala gadi ni chusi… party petti 2 months ki…inka impossibile.

 

2 hours ago, Mancode said:

true anduke worst estimates icha , only which runs o pk name 2-3%

 

[Mancode]

59 minutes ago, HugoStrange said:

equal partner or atleast 1/3rd seats anna isthe nee logic koncham anna pani chesthundi, TDP vallu malli musti vesinattu 10% seats or 15% seats istharu. Appudu thoka party and gelisthe permanent ga thoka party ga migilipothundi ani vese vallu kuda veyaru. TDP valla gurinchi telisinde ga, votes transfer ayyi ekkuva seats gelisthe ekkada chinna babu ki poti vasthado ani aa party ki veyaru. 

chudam , em seatlu ivvakundane pk name meeda tdp ki guddaru in 2014 ,isari seatlu ichina consolidate avav antava

[HugoStrange]

24 minutes ago, Mancode said:

chudam , em seatlu ivvakundane pk name meeda tdp ki guddaru in 2014 ,isari seatlu ichina consolidate avav antava

Emanna logic less ga matladuthunnava. Vadu poti cheyanappudu and fresh ga unnappudu di, 10years politics lo unnaka same ani feel avuthunnava. There were so many other things at that time like partition,

Third stage of dillusion edi