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After my recent post discussing the differences between undocumented immigrants and legal immigrants, it becomes evident that a significant issue lies within the Indian community, particularly among those who have already obtained Green Cards and citizenship. It appears that some of them advocate for the struggles of undocumented immigrants while opposing the efforts of legal immigrants like ourselves.
This situation may be seen as contradictory. Legal Dreamers who age out of their immigration status are often required to leave the country voluntarily. In the unfortunate event of an H1B visa holder’s spouse passing away, the entire family may face the prospect of returning to their home country.
We, as legal immigrants, faithfully fulfill our responsibilities by paying taxes, adhering to regulations, and contributing to social security. However, we are confronted with delays in obtaining Employment Authorization Documents (EAD), while some undocumented immigrants can obtain them almost immediately upon their arrival in the USA
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  • I think it’s not fair to people who come here legally and other people just lie to get GC when even the immigration system knows it’s a lie. Whoever seeks asylum shouldn’t be allowed to go back to their country ever again and see the decline in such cases.
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      Preeti Kaur most folks who come here lie on their F1 visa that they don't intend to apply for permanent residency.
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      Preeti Kaur well said 👏👏👏
       
       
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    Rimjhim Devgan
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    I missed your previous post .
    I do not support anything “Illegal “. I am very puzzled that “ illegal” immigration is even a topic to discuss and debate. I just don’t get it.
    It is just wrong on the very basic level, there should be no emotional, logi… 
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    Aaron Ke Zeetrader-com
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    It's unfortunate but legal immigrants are outnumbered by illegal immigrants and hence form a larger vote bank that motivates politicians to champion their cause.
    The legal immigrants who play by the rules and contribute to the economy are unfortunatel… 
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    Robin Horton
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    I welcome anyone who comes legally. I object to the fact that usually it is only skilled highly educated people who get the opportunity to immigrate to the United States. I think a janitor, Plumber, auto mechanic, etc. deserves just as much opportunity… 
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  • It has nothing to do with immigration status (aka green card/ citizenship ) but empathy and a bit of common sense that comes from staying close to the ground and reality.
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    Yogesh Kale
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    Immigrants are always on their own. I am also in the camp waiting for GC but I don’t expect citizens or current GC holders to care about our interest.
    What is the incentive for anybody to do anything for the immigrant community?
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    Riya Arora
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    Your assumption that anyone that holds an opinion other than yours is a citizen/GC holder is ignorant. If some of us can empathize better than you doesn't automatically give us the chance to be a citizen; although that does sound amazing.
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    Shalini Kumar
    When legal immigrants argue that students working illegally in restaurants is correct and lecture that students on F1 visa need money, so 💯 valid to work illegally. So same rule should apply to illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants also suffer in thei… 
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      Kunal Ghosh
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      Shalini Kumar there is a difference between true asylum seekers and willful illegal immigrant. Most fall in to the second category.
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      Benazir Iqbal
      Shalini Kumar 👆🏼👆🏼 this speaks volumes. I was hoping someone would say this as clearly as you did. 100%
       
       
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    Kaushik Dasbiswas
    When I first came here I used to see things as black and white. ie I came here legally and am paying taxes and immigration / lawyer fees, so I should get priority over someone who jumped the fence and is trying to get a GC through amnesty.
    Over the ye… 
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      Kaushik Dasbiswas 💫🙌🏾 such a thoughtful and beautiful answer.
       
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      Zoheb Vacheri
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      Kaushik Dasbiswas moreover most of these immigrants have native American ancestry and are escaping persecution in countries that are CIA installed banana Republics. They deserve citizenship. I think all the citizens of Haiti should be automatically given US citizenship.
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        Zoheb Vacheri That Native American point is so apt. They probably have more right on this land than anyone with European or other ancestry does.
         
         
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    Pushpa Prasad
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    As a citizen I've posted on this issue a few times. Very poor response.rate. A post on in laws, spouse fights, or Bollywood would have set the group afire
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      Pushpa Prasad there is no masala in serious topics of discussion. Such posts are like serials that are aired for TRP on TV channels, for high TRP
      I don't spend my energy and time on Bollywood and in-laws kind of posts...
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      Pushpa Prasad cause it’s not a masala post . Pretty evident !!
       
       
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    Dharmesh Patel
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    Most people here on illegal immigrants.
    Here's our own "Vivek Ramaswamy" - GOP presidential hopeful. … 
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      Pushpa Prasad
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      Indian Americans vote for Democrats like 80percent or higher. And have done so for decades. So now how exactly have Democrats supported Indian Americans?
       
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    Jayashree Subramanian
    This is a very polarizing topic. I do agree with you that the Indian community is very hesitant to advocate for immigration reform for legal dreamers. But there are some organizations that are pursuing advocacy efforts. "Immigration voice' has been aro… 
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      Manoj Kumar
      Jayashree Subramanian unfortunately no system can justify a lifetime wait for legal immigration. And worst thing is there is no senator or voice who really understands the problems( seeing their policy debates )
      Coming to stereotyping by OP on ‘Indian… 
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        Jayashree Subramanian
        Manoj Kumar there are organizations, as I mentioned in my post. The lack of awareness is a challenge. For every one post like the OPs, there are 10 nay Sayers whose negativity gets amplified by "likes" from others, and the FB algorithm further amplifie… 
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    Raja Vetsa
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    I didnt read previous posts on this topic.
    Legal immigration process is broken, many deserved people leave because of lack of enough visas availability and per country limits etc.… 
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    Vikram Rao
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    H1-B is a temporary work visa. It has expiry. People make permanent life decision based on temporary visa and get disappointed. This is the risk we chose to take.
    Illegal immigration is illegal , if caught they should be deported and banned. It is the risk they take.
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    Preetham Kumar
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    I agree, but undocumented immigrants often present emergency reasons such as fear of life in their home countries. India is quite a stable safe country; hence there is no urgency to grant GCs😊
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      Preetham Kumar except there were 150000 Indians who entered in the same route in last 10 years.
       
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        You mean as refugees?
         
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        Preetham Kumar You can pay and get documents in India from Politicians and officials that your life is under threat and seek refuge in a foreign country like US.
         
         
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      Preetham Kumar You have no idea then! If you come across a desi taxi driver here next, ask him how he landed here and you will be surprised to know almost all of them are asylum seekers with GC/Citizenship with a grant range of 2-10 years.
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        I agree that not all asylum seekers, from India or elsewhere, are in fear of their life. However, events such as communal riots in India or dictatorship in Venezuela weigh strongly with the Immigration department here and in other Western countries. Sp… 
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    Dharmesh Patel
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    Based on your previous thread, it seems like you are watching Fox News too much.
    Biden or Trump, neither is going to allow illegal immigrants more than the country can take on. … 
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    Rajesh Bansal
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    Some of the folks are so ignorant that for them millions of illegals coming through the border are persecuted somehow. Are the significant Indians coming through illegal routes also persecuted? It's a political issue rather than a humanitarian one.
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    Ashish Gupta
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    Once again, those are Humanitarian Cause based cases. There is nothing illegal about it. The law allows that. There are many restrictions, and a GC can be years away. But all immigrants that enter the US get an EAD. They work under the table. And if th… 
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    Manjeshwar Ganesha Kamath
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    Most of us who migrate know about visas, gcs, delays etc. but write a lot as if it is a surprise; instead patiently follow the rules and get it in the order of priority. Undocumented one is ongoing similarly, just don't worry on it.
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    Aparna Mulchandani
    H1B is classified as a “Temporary Non Immigrant visa”. It’s quite different from other types of immigrant visas. So aren’t you comparing apples with oranges?
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    Venutha V Chanagiri
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    Here are the states that issue DL on priority for undocumented immigrants
    This explains a lot of things
     
    May be an image of map and text that says 'Lo sa anlowing to get driver's licenses without proof of lawful presence (HB 4/SB 27). Immigrants and Driver's Licenses Switch View Does not offer driving privileges to unauthorized immigrants Offers driving privleges to unauthorized immigrants'
     
     
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    Mallika Walsh
    How does an undocumented immigrant obtain EAD almost upon arrival?
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      Mallika Walsh they are talking about asylum seekers and refugees who arrive by legal means and obtain residency legally.
      They think refugees should not be allowed in, in violation of the Geneva convention on human rights. Its just nasty rac**t talk.… 
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        Zoheb Vacheri well that’s a tough one: many do take advantage of these refugee situations and yet are pursuing a legal path. My objection is towards straight-up illegal ones who push their way in. And WHo are these people to decide who should be allowed in?
         
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        Mallika Walsh the American government decides who to allow in.
        I guess you don't like the Geneva convention on human rights that the United States follows for refugees along with all other signatories. You should complain to the UNHRC - The United Nat… 
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        Mallika Walsh
        Zoheb Vacheri I like Geneva Convention. I like everything Swiss😎
         
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    Venutha V Chanagiri
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    A particular political party wants illegal immigrants that increase their vote bank, want legal immigrants for labour who can generate money in the country but not giving all rights
    IT IS a political agenda and nothing else. Every other explanation is a BS
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    Venutha V Chanagiri
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    Undocumented immigrants get priority to get DL and I was denied to renew as my EAD had expired, inspite of having a valid visa.
    Again this happens in few specific states for political gain… 
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    Mehul Kumar Singh
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    Illegal immigration has become a fast track tool for getting citizenship/GC for most. Most of the Indian asylum seekers fake cases in India(yes, fake FIRs etc) to get sympathy and asylum here. There's a whole big racket for it. Similarly, many from oth… 
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    Which part of his constituency is Ukraine.. but he is worried about Ukraine not about people living here.. thats why we have to raise our voice
     
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    Kunal Ghosh
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    I do not advocate illegal immigration. Legal immigration system has to be improved both parties know it but have nothing to improve. Only politicians support illegal immigration for vote bank and businesses support illegal immigration to hire cheap lab… 
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    I think many people fundamentally misunderstand a crucial aspect of immigration: every immigrant, legal or illegal, are pawns meant to benefit only the USA, no one else. Undocumented workers serve as super cheap labor to work on agricultural fields or … 
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    Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Immigrants from countries like India chose to immigrate to USA, for much better earning opportunities and standard of life. On the other hand, most illlegal immigrants come to USA facing unlivable conditions bac… 
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    When one supports undocumented immigrants it does not automatically mean that they are against legal immigration. These are 2 very different issues and must be represented as such. Politicians almost always gain by putting these 2 groups against each o… 
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    Abhishek 'Abhi' S
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    1. Misplaced compassion and shallow empty virtue signaling. Lack of actual virtue in life so thrive on feigning compassion for illegals.
    2. When they show up in their sanctuary cities and streets. Then they want to throw them elsewhere. … 
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    Saket Kapur
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    Politics works on 2 things. Vote bank numbers and/or intense lobbying that requires folks to fork both time and money. Hispanic lobby is way too strong and motivated.
    They have a major leg up because most of them come via the family route so motivatio… 
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      Robin Horton
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      Saket Kapur Well said and true! Hope you had a great Birthday!
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    Zoheb Vacheri
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    You lack empathy for undocumented immigrants, (who, according to you, are apparently issued EADs immediately upon arrival!!!!) but want empathy for people who have good jobs but a long GC wait.
    If you don't really have any empathy for others, then wh… 
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      Zoheb Vacheri Well, a lot of asylum seekers from India are granted EAD after 3 months. So yeah, EAD is granted immediately, yes!
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    Madhu Bhangi
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    there are multiple bigger issues with categorization of illegal immigrants.
    - asylum seekers are in it
    - people who are brought in to do hard labor, as farms cannot get enough of them legally… 
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    Lakshman Sam
    In Par, the undocumented community faces some unique challenges, such as the delightful maze of enrolling their children in schools, the thrilling quest for accessible healthcare, and the heartwarming hospitality from employers. Securing a driver's lic… 
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    Tara Hans
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    Forget what others think or support. If you feel undocumented people life is easy then you can try that route no one stopping you
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    Do you think illegal immigrants are taking away anything from you?
    You and I can't do other than post here, even you were able get approved your post..… 
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    चंद्रमणि श्रीवास्तव
    We all are seeking privileges as if they are our rights! We can only wait for the master to oblige; or become the master of our own fate
     
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    Tapan Kumar
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    After one gets GC or further when they opt for citizenship, the priorities and interests change. Its pure human behavior just like most of us forget the difficult days we had in past and behave in same way like others which we didn’t like during our difficult days.
     
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    Saurabh Jain
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    Navaldeep Singhi i know you from other channel 🌏
    Illegal immigration is not good for any country, with GC/USC those who sit in high horses and give humanity lecture have not seen the world enough, they had the comfortable journey . I am waiting for Vi… 
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    Kumar Bhargav
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    Indians have never been vocal about their issues on immigration.
    They will grind loke slaves in middle east but will ignore like it's a favor for them. Bullywood also will keep ignoring it like it never happened.… 
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    You can only choose the path you think is right. Keep fighting for it. That is it.
     
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    Karan Patel
    Real problem comes when these legal immigrants don't get any help or support from Indian Communities or anywhere else & they endup struggling & stranded in nowhere. Real difficult situation to be in.
     
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    You dont know what you are talking about.
     
     
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    Indian H1b holders are Golden geese for USCIS, in terms of paying for extension fee, stamping fee, etc
     
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    Mallika Walsh
    Thank you for posting under your name and not anonymously 🙏
     
     
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    Asim Nabi
    There are some crooks who try to burn the bridge they themselves have walked across
     
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    Chibi Vijayan
    I feel like you are missing a perspective here.. the legal immigrants come here by choice.. they have an option to stay or leave anytime.. but the illegal immigrants don't come here just for fun, most times, they are escaping poverty, persecution, dan… 
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      Chibi Vijayan Exactly, I somehow managed to get my GC without hating on Latin Americans. The OP should try doing the same.
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      Abhiroop Ghosh
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      Chibi Vijayan good point. And to add to that, undocumented immigrants play a different role in the economy. I'm pretty sure most people in this group aren't toiling on agricultural lands in the Southern heat under pitiful wages. Neither are undocumente… 
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After my recent post discussing the differences between undocumented immigrants and legal immigrants, it becomes evident that a significant issue lies within the Indian community, particularly among those who have already obtained Green Cards and citizenship. It appears that some of them advocate for the struggles of undocumented immigrants while opposing the efforts of legal immigrants like ourselves.
This situation may be seen as contradictory. Legal Dreamers who age out of their immigration status are often required to leave the country voluntarily. In the unfortunate event of an H1B visa holder’s spouse passing away, the entire family may face the prospect of returning to their home country.
We, as legal immigrants, faithfully fulfill our responsibilities by paying taxes, adhering to regulations, and contributing to social security. However, we are confronted with delays in obtaining Employment Authorization Documents (EAD), while some undocumented immigrants can obtain them almost immediately upon their arrival in the USA

E point meedha explanation ledhu. enti detail?

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1 minute ago, pizzaaddict said:

@kevinUsa illegal ga vastey easy GC Ani evadi start chesado gani. Border cross chesi vastey , arrival on GC Ani saying konthamandi Desi la opinion 

thats what ton of people think 

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