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For the first time, my auditor (dad's old friend) who's muslim, spoke against Modi.


Raven_Rayes

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38 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

the line between sanghi and normal hindu has blurred. Almost all hindu friends you have today are most likely sanghi, given the crap you spew here.

muslims as second class citizens, duh! For eg. would Hindus accept a secular civil code under uniform civil code that the Hindu fascist govt is pushing?

why should demographics be changed to achieve Hindu rashtra.. India is already almost there. Yogi destroying muslim properties because they are supposedly in a protest says what?

and that pointless controversy around wearing burkha to school. Hindus deciding how muslims should live, is the Hindu rashtra.

you are beating around the bush to say that you don't want to have a muslim friend. that's why I labeled you a sanghi.

individual is free to not have a muslim friend, but if that choice is overly prevalent in a large group of individuals, it means there's something else at play than simple individual choice.. lets call that bigotry.

Another label again, that's okay. Wouldn't that apply for everyone else then, including yourself? Do you have tolerance to have so called  'Sanghis' as your friends ? The tolerance for those that lean left is ideally near zero.

Do you see it only as moslem property? Not a seasoned criminal with charge sheets against them? 

How did you even arrive at this? If any moslems have far more constitutional protection and concessions that Hindus don't have. I'm actually jealous that they can be married more than once without divorcing existing one. I think, Hindus should have this as well. 

Why is there a school uniform in the first place ? So will Hindus be allowed to wear a dhoti (boys)  and or half saree (girls)  and go to school? 

How exactly are Hindus deciding how moslems should live? Are they asked not to shave their moustache ? Or do namaz or not to circumcise? Did Hindus do something along the lines of what China has done to  Uyghur moslems? If any, Hindus accommodate consuming halal meat (Chicken and Lamb), visit darghas, some even call fakir sai baba as sai 'ram' and visit shiridi. 

No beating around. I never grew up with moslems. I have colleagues and acquaintances that are moslem to whom I'm always courteous. They are not simply my friends. This also applies to a lot other Hindus as well. What's this compulsive representation that you're bent on? 

Is a Tamil guy likely to have more Gujaratis speaking friends? Is a Punjabi going to have more Telugu speaking friends?  It applies for moslems as well. They are likely to have moslems as friends than people of different faith. Why is that moslems still feel comfortable living amongst Hindu settlements but Hindus usually leave when the settlement turns into a Muslim majority one? 

Bigotry? How so ? 

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1 hour ago, Raven_Rayes said:

i think you are too comfortable with islamophobes around you. may be you are an islamophobe yourself, and that's why you are comfortable with pieces of sh1t like the ones that post in this db.

I'm not. I'm disgusted by you all, and by the country you are from, which unfortunately I'm from too.

 

No. I don't have phobia of any religion but I have phobia of extremists in every religion.

You considered your dad's friend as psychopath just because he didn't agree with idealogy. It seems world in only black and white. So I won't be surprised you calling me names.

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6 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

I always thought that he was some sort of sociopath, because he's extremely rich with a thriving business with top companies for clients, and that he's sold his soul in exchange for all the wealth.

Finally, he showed to me that he's human. And that he cares for his fellow muslims, and for humans in general.

normally I have very low expectations from CAs, lawyers etc, but this was a happy surprise..

A very good call to start the day.

Manaki ee profession antey respect or better expectations unnaye Anna ? 

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Just now, CanadianMalodu said:

Another label again, that's okay. Wouldn't that apply for everyone else then, including yourself? Do you have tolerance to have so called  'Sanghis' as your friend ? The tolerance for those that lean left is ideally near zero.

why would I tolerate a nazi scum as my friend?

1 minute ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Do you see it only as moslem property? Not a seasoned criminal with charge sheets against them? 

why do the courts exist then? for sh1ts and giggles?

1 minute ago, CanadianMalodu said:

How did you even arrive at this? If any moslems have far more constitutional protection and concessions that Hindus don't have. I'm actually jealous that they can be married more than once without divorcing existing one. I think, Hindus should have this as well. 

what do you mean I arrived at this? what would a uniform civil code look like? simple question..

 

3 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Why is there a school uniform in the first place ? So will Hindus be allowed to wear a dhoti (boys)  and or half saree (girls)  and go to school? 

its immaterial.. in a country where female literacy is in the doldrums, state trying to limit girls from attending school under one pretext or the other is just shameful.

16 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

 

How exactly are Hindus deciding how moslems should live? Are they asked not to shave their moustache ? Or do namaz or not to circumcise? Did Hindus do something along the lines of what China has done to  Uyghur moslems? If any, Hindus accommodate consuming halal meat (Chicken and Lamb), visit darghas, some even call fakir sai baba as sai 'ram' and visit shiridi. 

I already gave you an example of how hindus are deciding what muslims should do..

18 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Is a Tamil guy likely to have more Gujaratis speaking friends? Is a Punjabi going to have more Telugu speaking friends?  It applies for moslems as well. They are likely to have moslems as friends than people of different faith. Why is that moslems still feel comfortable living amongst Hindu settlements but Hindus usually leave when the settlement turns into a Muslim majority one? 

tamil guy living in  sowcarpet in chennai will definitely have gujarati friends.

because Hindus discriminate against muslims in housing, duh! so they congregate together.

are you really naive, or are you just trolling me?

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14 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

No. I don't have phobia of any religion but I have phobia of extremists in every religion.

You considered your dad's friend as psychopath just because he didn't agree with idealogy. It seems world in only black and white. So I won't be surprised you calling me names.

 

you think India is fine and democratic, and you think I'm the one with an ideology.

I considered my dad's friend a sociopath because he has always been cheerful in our interactions, and dismissed my concern about his son's experience in an investment bank, that got him to quit it and join his practice, as overreaction.

that he so cheerfully accepted his condition made me think he's a sociopath. It has nothing to do with my ideology.

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26 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

No. I don't have phobia of any religion but I have phobia of extremists in every religion.

I'm sure you make excuses for the regular sanghi. you won't even bat an eyelid if you meet an extreme Hindu making an extreme statement, because for you what he'd say is normal.

anyway if I have to judge people based on my ideological puritanist stance, no one, not even I, would come out as acceptable person.

I don't judge people, I merely ask questions based on what they tell me about themselves. people may get irritated, but I'm not the one judging them.. I'm forcing them to judge themselves..

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17 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

why would I tolerate a nazi scum as my friend?

why do the courts exist then? for sh1ts and giggles?

what do you mean I arrived at this? what would a uniform civil code look like? simple question..

 

its immaterial.. in a country where female literacy is in the doldrums, state trying to limit girls from attending school under one pretext or the other is just shameful.

I already gave you an example of how hindus are deciding what muslims should do..

tamil guy living in  sowcarpet in chennai will definitely have gujarati friends.

because Hindus discriminate against muslims in housing, duh! so they congregate together.

are you really naive, or are you just trolling me?

So Sanghi's are Nazis now? Regardless, you just agreed you don't have tolerance for those that don't think you. Same applies for others as well.

Yogi took out of box approach. Extra judicial approaches are not uncommon in India. Did Dora, not encounter alleged rapists ? Are all naxalite encounters legit ? Were political opponents houses or business not targeted ? Why selective outrage?

I as a Hindu male prefer having multiple wives just like moslems. But unfortunately, Modi's government wants it other way around. I'm a Canadian, so doesn't affect me much anyways.

No it's not. State just tried to implement uniform rule for everyone regardless of their religion.

You're picky on an area. In the same way, those Hindu kids that grew up in old city areas of Hyderabad or around towlichoki, mehdipatnam are likely to have some moslem friends. That doesn't mean that everyone should have representative friends from certain religion.

Very generalized statement. Hindus discriminate against Hindus as well when it comes to housing. But, housing is a private choice. If a brahmin family prefers having Brahmins as their tenants that their wish. You cannot force them to rent it out to others. Same applies for all the communities. 

Then how come moslems congregate together in the West in countries like USA, Canada or UK?

Your definition of bigotry is at maximum comfort zone in which individuals prefer to stay. 

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1 minute ago, CanadianMalodu said:

So Sanghi's are Nazis now? Regardless, you just agreed you don't have tolerance for those that don't think you. Same applies for others as well.

Yogi took out of box approach. Extra judicial approaches are not uncommon in India. Did Dora, not encounter alleged rapists ? Are all naxalite encounters legit ? Were political opponents houses or business not targeted ? Why selective outrage?

I as a Hindu male prefer having multiple wives just like moslems. But unfortunately, Modi's government wants it other way around. I'm a Canadian, so doesn't affect me much anyways.

No it's not. State just tried to implement uniform rule for everyone regardless of their religion.

You're picky on an area. In the same way, those Hindu kids that grew up in old city areas of Hyderabad or around towlichoki, mehdipatnam are likely to have some moslem friends. That doesn't mean that everyone should have representative friends from certain religion.

Very generalized statement. Hindus discriminate against Hindus as well when it comes to housing. But, housing is a private choice. If a brahmin family prefers having Brahmins as their tenants that their wish. You cannot force them to rent it out to others. Same applies for all the communities. 

Then how come moslems congregate together I'm West in countries like USA, Canada or UK?

No point in discussing with peacefuls. Their ultimate goal is sharia law all over the world

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6 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

but the environment in India remains dangerous for such muslims to speak out. vent out their anger at the administration.

majority in urban India have lost their mind at this point. live and act like genocidal zombies.

 

Janala ki broken rice peduthey …lavubiyyam esthey chalu antaru, adey lavu biyyam esthey sanna biyyam esthey Vadu devudu antaru, adey San a biyyam esthey biryani rice esthey Vadu ma …. Same with These ppl! India gave them everything they r still unhappy with littile things bcuz they have everything in world! Unlike pakis all they need is tomatoes and rice to make them happy. 

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4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Sanghi's are Nazis now? Regardless, you just agreed you don't have tolerance for those that don't think you. Same applies for others as well

Yes sanghis are nazis. Who are the others here?  People pretending like they are not sanghis? 

Hating sanghis - political extremist group, is not the same as hating an social and religious group . Again you're gonna say that there's no hate, but if you believed that, it's even worse. It means you are casually attributing nasty stuff to Muslims without even hating them, while excusing Hindus who act like that.

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Yogi took out of box approach. Extra judicial approaches are not uncommon in India. Did Dora, not encounter alleged rapists ? Are all naxalite encounters legit ? Were political opponents houses or business not targeted ? Why selective outrage?

So did no one outrage when Dora did those encounters?

Was naxal encounters considered as legitimate?

Why this special love towards bhisht extrajudicial actions targeting a specific religious group? Your hate for muslims is just so casual and matter of fact.

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

it's not. State just tried to implement uniform rule for everyone regardless of their religion.

State should try to do better things, like bring more girls into schools, not create a situation where families will stop sending them to school and get them married early.

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

You're picky on an area. In the same way, those Hindu kids that grew up in old city areas of Hyderabad or around towlichoki, mehdipatnam are likely to have some moslem friends. That doesn't mean that everyone should have representative friends from certain religion.

Yeah read up on posts from those around Hyderabad in this db. Can see a lot of love for muslims. Lmao. 

The hate is simmering beneath and always finds a way out. 

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Hindus discriminate against Hindus as well when it comes to housing. But, housing is a private choice. If a brahmin family prefers having Brahmins as their tenants that their wish. You cannot force them to rent it out to others. Same applies for all the communities. 

Housing is a private choice, but investment in infra is a public choice. It's perfectly possible for govt to come up with policies that discourage congregation of caste, religion by investing more in such communities. 

Like imagine posh neighbourhoods being forced to diversify. One can only imagine because it's not going to happen. 

Anyway to your original silly assertion that Muslim love to live in Hindu settlements, that's because that's where majority of corporation funds are spent. It's not some magical attraction to Hindu way of life or something. It's because state discriminates against Muslims and dalits. Not just muslims, everyone would want to live in the nice places certain hindus live in India, because that's where corporation pours its money into.

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Then how come moslems congregate together in the West in countries like USA, Canada or UK?

For the same reasons Hindus congregate in these countries. They are all immigrants.

Looks like you can't look past the religion, even though you claim to have no hate for Muslims 

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1 hour ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Its on the path to becoming a hindu rashtra, if you are too busy living in your bubble, and never cared to look out of that.

'decent' 'democratic'... India was never that. but atleast it was tolerable, somewhat charming place you could go back to to relive your past. Now its full of disgusting mouthbreathing islamophobes.

its surprising if Hindus still have muslim friends in India. regular HIndu has gone beserk. mind fcuked.

What measurable indicators do you see?  

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1 hour ago, Raven_Rayes said:

 

you think India is fine and democratic, and you think I'm the one with an ideology.

I considered my dad's friend a sociopath because he has always been cheerful in our interactions, and dismissed my concern about his son's experience in an investment bank, that got him to quit it and join his practice, as overreaction.

that he so cheerfully accepted his condition made me think he's a sociopath. It has nothing to do with my ideology.

sociopath: a person who is completely unable or unwilling to behave in a way that is acceptable to society (that is from Cambridge dictionary)

Not sure which character of your uncle qualifies him to be a sociopath.

 

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2 hours ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

sociopath: a person who is completely unable or unwilling to behave in a way that is acceptable to society (that is from Cambridge dictionary)

Not sure which character of your uncle qualifies him to be a sociopath.

 

lmao. ability to shut out his feelings, and act like everything is perfectly acceptable. what do you call that?

desperate to defend the country you were born into.

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