For the first time, my auditor (dad's old friend) who's muslim, spoke against Modi.

[Raven_Rayes]

2 hours ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

What measurable indicators do you see?  

how would you characterize this db? decent, informative, entertaining, friendly? lmao. this db is disgustingly communal, and insanely bigoted. if you ask me to proove this, I don't give a fcuk.

 number of reporters locked up for doing their job? most recently 'newsclick' entire staff, including freelancers being arrested on false charges.

almost no coverage of Modi negatively. these are all 'reasonable indicators'.. as for your 'measurable ones', you can shove them up your ar$e. lmao.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

2 hours ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

What measurable indicators do you see?  

how does one measure 'hindu rashtra', other than with theiri tongue they use to lick Modi's boots?

now you are going to call me abusive, like all other idiots in this db, as if the way you interact deserves any kind of earnest response. in fact, its perfectly okay to be abusive to everyone in this db. but I'm not being abusive, I'm being cheeky.

regular people look at the number of muslim MPs (big zero) in both the upper and lower house, from the largest ruling party in India, and come to the conclusion that India is hurtling towards being a 'hindu rashtra'.

[pakeer_saab]

11 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

I always thought that he was some sort of sociopath, because he's extremely rich with a thriving business with top companies for clients, and that he's sold his soul in exchange for all the wealth.

Finally, he showed to me that he's human. And that he cares for his fellow muslims, and for humans in general.

normally I have very low expectations from CAs, lawyers etc, but this was a happy surprise..

A very good call to start the day.

muslims and humans cannot go together ra edava

[pakeer_saab]

7 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

You are talking about yourself. Is it ok to divide the country again and give muslims a seperate piece of land.

Because you think thats the right solution for telugu people. ask for a seperate country for muslims.

seperate country was already given ra, those who want separate country can leave

[pakeer_saab]

6 hours ago, futureofandhra said:

u seem to care humans by religion or caste 

 

leave it bro, muzzies are under fear from decline of ummah, israel will beat the crap put of Palestinians.. aa stress ee pichodu @Raven_Rayes kasepu blabber chestadu

[pakeer_saab]

43 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

how would you characterize this db? decent, informative, entertaining, friendly? lmao. this db is disgustingly communal, and insanely bigoted. if you ask me to proove this, I don't give a fcuk.

 number of reporters locked up for doing their job? most recently 'newsclick' entire staff, including freelancers being arrested on false charges.

almost no coverage of Modi negatively. these are all 'reasonable indicators'.. as for your 'measurable ones', you can shove them up your ar$e. lmao.

 

covering negatively is not news ra fooka, covering news as news is the job of journalism

btw how do you already know newsclick investigation is false, unlike muzzie countries indian has courts and ED should answer in court

typical humans believe in system , muzzies are animals and dont believe in any law but barbaric skybook

[Raven_Rayes]

36 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

covering negatively is not news ra fooka, covering news as news is the job of journalism

btw how do you already know newsclick investigation is false, unlike muzzie countries indian has courts and ED should answer in court

typical humans believe in system , muzzies are animals and dont believe in any law but barbaric skybook

because the charges are laughable. shows the entire world what a clown fascist country India has become.

It'll be worth a good laugh, if people are not hurt like this.

[Raven_Rayes]

41 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

leave it bro, muzzies are under fear from decline of ummah, israel will beat the crap put of Palestinians.. aa stress ee pichodu @Raven_Rayes kasepu blabber chestadu

your family needs to be made aware that they are living with a wannabe genocidal maniac. get well soon.

[vithanda_vadhi]

1 hour ago, Raven_Rayes said:

how does one measure 'hindu rashtra', other than with theiri tongue they use to lick Modi's boots?

now you are going to call me abusive, like all other idiots in this db, as if the way you interact deserves any kind of earnest response. in fact, its perfectly okay to be abusive to everyone in this db. but I'm not being abusive, I'm being cheeky.

regular people look at the number of muslim MPs (big zero) in both the upper and lower house, from the largest ruling party in India, and come to the conclusion that India is hurtling towards being a 'hindu rashtra'.

Good question. There are 2 steps to approach the problem. Make an hypothesis and then systamtically collect data to either prove or disprove it.

In my first response I have asked a measurable number on your genocide theory - population growth. did you get numbers and what did it indicate?

Now for Hindu Rashtra theory -

1. First things first, how long in the history you would like to consider? Pre Mogul? Pre British or just post partition independent India? 

2. Now start collecting data at start of your time frame and now.

Few starters (please feel free to add anything you feel a secular country should have)

How much percentage of the country is hindu at start of the time frame and current

How much percentage of minorities living under poverty? 

How much percentage of minorities forced to leave country?

How much percentage were denied  government services based on religion?

How many places of worship before and after

Political representation - how many represented given minority community at start of time frame and at the end

List goes on. That's how you measure. By calling me names, reality won't change. Reality is numbers. 

[vithanda_vadhi]

1 hour ago, Raven_Rayes said:

how does one measure 'hindu rashtra', other than with theiri tongue they use to lick Modi's boots?

now you are going to call me abusive, like all other idiots in this db, as if the way you interact deserves any kind of earnest response. in fact, its perfectly okay to be abusive to everyone in this db. but I'm not being abusive, I'm being cheeky.

regular people look at the number of muslim MPs (big zero) in both the upper and lower house, from the largest ruling party in India, and come to the conclusion that India is hurtling towards being a 'hindu rashtra'.

to answer your MPs question, I don't think you looked at data. Minorities always under represented in political spectrum across globe.

In India, it is always between 4 to 9%. In current parliment it is 5%. It is not good. It needs to be improved to 14%. But that is what it is since starting. 

Just to give perspective in another biggest democracy US there are only 4 African American senators in current senate.

[Raven_Rayes]

28 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

to answer your MPs question, I don't think you looked at data. Minorities always under represented in political spectrum across globe.

In India, it is always between 4 to 9%. In current parliment it is 5%. It is not good. It needs to be improved to 14%. But that is what it is since starting. 

Just to give perspective in another biggest democracy US there are only 4 African American senators in current senate.

dude, don't pretend like you are some reasonable neutral guy, while shilling for the BJP.

I said number of BJP mps in upper and lower house is zero. current parliament having muslim mps don't have much say in legislative power.

the party that is currently in power, and is enthusiastically cheered on by a lot of the chattering class and projected to hold power until the near future has zero Muslim mps in parliament in both houses.

[Raven_Rayes]

54 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Good question. There are 2 steps to approach the problem. Make an hypothesis and then systamtically collect data to either prove or disprove it.

I'm a material scientist by training, trader by occupation. Not a political/social scientist.

on general topics outside of my area of expertise, I'm quite conversant with veganism as a morality and nutritional value, and trasgender biology. politics.. lmao. I can't even name local mp of the place I used to live in India. I notice that Indians are antagonist towards muslims in real life, I can easily observe this at family get together and other social occasions, and I call that out.

you want me to make a hypothesis on it, and argue on it like I'm some scholar. lmao.

54 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

In my first response I have asked a measurable number on your genocide theory - population growth. did you get numbers and what did it indicate?

what genocide theory? I merely stated that people in India live like genocidal zombies. do you take that for a theory?

 

54 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Now for Hindu Rashtra theory -

1. First things first, how long in the history you would like to consider? Pre Mogul? Pre British or just post partition independent India? 

2. Now start collecting data at start of your time frame and now.

Few starters (please feel free to add anything you feel a secular country should have)

How much percentage of the country is hindu at start of the time frame and current

How much percentage of minorities living under poverty? 

How much percentage of minorities forced to leave country?

How much percentage were denied  government services based on religion?

How many places of worship before and after

Political representation - how many represented given minority community at start of time frame and at the end

you are clutching at straws here, in an attempt to waste my time with inconsequential nonsense premises.

what is this about considering historical timeline to call India a hindu rashtra now?

state your premise plainly, if you wish to debate. I'm not proposing any theories here, however hard you are trying to twist what I had to say.

is your premise that India cannot be a hindu rashtra because muslim population exploded?

 

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9 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

You are talking about yourself. Is it ok to divide the country again and give muslims a seperate piece of land.

Because you think thats the right solution for telugu people. ask for a seperate country for muslims.

According to Paccha Hamas, the term Telugu people is dog whistle for their own caste....! Stop including My Telangana, Rayalaseema & Costa Andhra people....they don't want to live in your Ku"la la" Land. 

This is why I say Paccha Hamas batch is anothe "Kula"sthaani movement. Inkosaari separate land kavalante inkoka Operation Polo tho ghoram champutundi Indian Govt....! Picchi picchi veshaalu veyyakundaa andaritho paatu bathakandi.

[Raven_Rayes]

46 minutes ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

Just to give perspective in another biggest democracy US there are only 4 African American senators in current senate.

and what about the house?

anyways its obvious that the republican party is white nationalist friendly since almost all the representation of black congressmen/senators would be from the democrat party.

in the same vein, is it okay to call BJP sanghi party.. and the expectation that BJP will rule india for another couple decades, as people being accepting of the zero representation for muslims in the parliament, and as the stage being set for Hindu rashtra?

if you are looking for a hypothesis or data for these assertions, you are in the wrong db. you should read epw.

I know I'm in a majority sanghi db, and I would be trolled for my comments here. but can you please stop pretending like you even have a premise that you can argue for.

[Telugodura456]

3 minutes ago, rushmore said:

According to Paccha Hamas, the term Telugu people is dog whistle for their own caste....! Stop including My Telangana, Rayalaseema & Costa Andhra people....they don't want to live in your Ku"la la" Land. 

This is why I say Paccha Hamas batch is anothe "Kula"sthaani movement. Inkosaari separate land kavalante inkoka Operation Polo tho ghoram champutundi Indian Govt....! Picchi picchi veshaalu veyyakundaa andaritho paatu bathakandi.

rey picchoda. If their own caste really did anything wrong your batch would have directly spoken against them instead of asking for splitting people in to andhra/tg. Since they really havent done anything your batch also wants to do - you use proxies like andhra people and tg people to satissfy your jealousy.