For the first time, my auditor (dad's old friend) who's muslim, spoke against Modi.

[Raven_Rayes]

1 hour ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

List goes on. That's how you measure. By calling me names, reality won't change. Reality is numbers. 

that's how dumbfcuks measure anything. if you are interested in politics as a science, stop shooting from your hip pretending like you know what you are talking about. dig into epw archives for a decade and lecture me on your hypothesis after that.

I will call you names, if you say something stupid. and your entire post is fcuking stupid.

defining and measuring Hindu rashtra is impossible because it is not clearly defined even by its own proponents - the RSS.

as for now, the expectation that Modi will stay in power for another decade, and BJP imagining Tejaswi Yadav (36 yrs old) as potential future PM says that atleast they feel that Hindu rashtra has arrived.

 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

rey picchoda. If their own caste really did anything wrong your batch would have directly spoken against them instead of asking for splitting people in to andhra/tg. Since they really havent done anything your batch also wants to do - you use proxies like andhra people and tg people to satissfy your jealousy.

You use Telugu people as a shield from hitting you. This is similar to how Hamas uses Palesteninan children as human shields. Telugu people know everything...they don't want a society ridden with caste madness such as yours. 

 

[CanadianMalodu]

3 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

how does one measure 'hindu rashtra', other than with theiri tongue they use to lick Modi's boots?

now you are going to call me abusive, like all other idiots in this db, as if the way you interact deserves any kind of earnest response. in fact, its perfectly okay to be abusive to everyone in this db. but I'm not being abusive, I'm being cheeky.

regular people look at the number of muslim MPs (big zero) in both the upper and lower house, from the largest ruling party in India, and come to the conclusion that India is hurtling towards being a 'hindu rashtra'.

Electoral politics work on voter arithmetic, financial resources and goodwill of the candidate . Moslems are not traditional vote bank of BJP. What do you expect ? That doesn't mean there are no moslem MPs in parliament.

Not regular people. Regular people are the likes on this forum. That's a left perspective. Not very surprised. The last battle will need to happen in Kerala and West Bengal to decimate left. The sooner this happens, the better for the country.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Electoral politics work on voter arithmetic, financial resources and goodwill of the candidate . Moslems are not traditional vote bank of BJP. What do you expect ? That doesn't mean there are no moslem MPs in parliament.

Not regular people. Regular people are the likes on this forum. That's a left perspective. Not very surprised. The last battle will need to happen in Kerala and West Bengal to decimate left. The sooner this happens, the better for the country.

 

yeah look around how these 'regular people' post about muslims. regular people irl too have the same nonsense beliefs when they are in their circle. hence India is almost a Hindu rashtra.

[CanadianMalodu]

21 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

yeah look around how these 'regular people' post about muslims. regular people irl too have the same nonsense beliefs when they are in their circle. hence India is almost a Hindu rashtra.

What's the most outrageous thing that these regular people said about Moslems. Leaving me a so called sanghi aside ?

[Raven_Rayes]

16 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

What's the most outrageous thing that these regular people said about Moslems. Leaving me a so called sanghi aside ?

You are not a so-called sanghi. You are a sanghi. There's nothing else that explains your casual dehumanisation of muslims as a groip for the actions of a few.

Everything these regular people that post here believe about muslims is outrageous.

For eg. That they are terrorists. You believe it too. That you respond calmly while saying the same things that an average sanghi would say doesn't make you a non-sanghi. It's just the good cop bad cop act.  

[CanadianMalodu]

2 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

You are not a so-called sanghi. You are a sanghi. There's nothing else that explains your casual dehumanisation of muslims as a groip for the actions of a few.

Everything these regular people that post here believe about muslims is outrageous.

For eg. That they are terrorists. You believe it too. That you respond calmly while saying the same things that an average sanghi would say doesn't make you a non-sanghi. It's just the good cop bad cop act.  

Where did I dehumanize them? It's you who calls me 'sanghi'. I don't identify myself as sanghi. 

Most of the terrorists are moslems. That doesn't mean moslems are Sanghis. There are others as well. Regular Indians growing up have seen this. I don't play good cop bad cop. Neither I care about being called sanghi. 

[vithanda_vadhi]

8 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

dude, don't pretend like you are some reasonable neutral guy, while shilling for the BJP.

I said number of BJP mps in upper and lower house is zero. current parliament having muslim mps don't have much say in legislative power.

the party that is currently in power, and is enthusiastically cheered on by a lot of the chattering class and projected to hold power until the near future has zero Muslim mps in parliament in both houses.

It is a political party which majorly represents Hindu. So they have obviously have more Hindu MPs. They gave 6 MP seats to minorities. All lost. If there is a MP from religion you support you would have called him more stronger word than sociopath. What exactly you want them to do? Even if give they ticket to more non-hindu they will loose because no one from other religion vote for them. What exactly you want them to do? 

[vithanda_vadhi]

9 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

I'm a material scientist by training, trader by occupation. Not a political/social scientist.

on general topics outside of my area of expertise, I'm quite conversant with veganism as a morality and nutritional value, and trasgender biology. politics.. lmao. I can't even name local mp of the place I used to live in India. I notice that Indians are antagonist towards muslims in real life, I can easily observe this at family get together and other social occasions, and I call that out.

you want me to make a hypothesis on it, and argue on it like I'm some scholar. lmao.

what genocide theory? I merely stated that people in India live like genocidal zombies. do you take that for a theory?

 

you are clutching at straws here, in an attempt to waste my time with inconsequential nonsense premises.

what is this about considering historical timeline to call India a hindu rashtra now?

state your premise plainly, if you wish to debate. I'm not proposing any theories here, however hard you are trying to twist what I had to say.

is your premise that India cannot be a hindu rashtra because muslim population exploded?

 

I thought scientists always approach problem with numbers.

You already make hypothesis "that Its on the path to becoming a hindu rashtra  ..."

 

what is this about considering historical timeline to call India a hindu rashtra now? 

Read your above bold statement again. You said it is on the path to become hindu state. On the path to becoming from what to what? You need a timeline to compare.

I don't see a single supporting statistics from you except BJP doesn't have zero MPs.

We accept or not, India is a hindu majority country. They will have better say in democracy. As long as they let other religions live peacefully without government discrimination, I consider it secular country.

 

[pakeer_saab]

11 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

your family needs to be made aware that they are living with a wannabe genocidal maniac. get well soon.

pity your family can live with a retard like you, my family will be perfectly fine me being normal.

[pakeer_saab]

2 hours ago, vithanda_vadhi said:

I thought scientists always approach problem with numbers.

You already make hypothesis "that Its on the path to becoming a hindu rashtra  ..."

 

what is this about considering historical timeline to call India a hindu rashtra now? 

Read your above bold statement again. You said it is on the path to become hindu state. On the path to becoming from what to what? You need a timeline to compare.

I don't see a single supporting statistics from you except BJP doesn't have zero MPs.

We accept or not, India is a hindu majority country. They will have better say in democracy. As long as they let other religions live peacefully without government discrimination, I consider it secular country.

 

dont waste time with a retard who has no logic

[Raven_Rayes]

On 10/17/2023 at 6:35 PM, vithanda_vadhi said:

I thought scientists always approach problem with numbers.

You already make hypothesis "that Its on the path to becoming a hindu rashtra  ..."

 

what is this about considering historical timeline to call India a hindu rashtra now? 

Read your above bold statement again. You said it is on the path to become hindu state. On the path to becoming from what to what? You need a timeline to compare.

I don't see a single supporting statistics from you except BJP doesn't have zero MPs.

We accept or not, India is a hindu majority country. They will have better say in democracy. As long as they let other religions live peacefully without government discrimination, I consider it secular country.

 

stop blabbering nonsense. what do you need to compare with? I'm also a material scientist, and have zero interest in politics, except when I have to hear Indian uppercaste asshole open his bs talking points.

I don't have to waste my time presenting any 'stats' because your entire premise is stupid. I can make a casual observation that India is already a Hindu rashtra based on laws that BJP states are passing. for eg. banning burqas for women in schools, banning muslim vendors in Hindu festivals, banning sale of meat around temples and on week long hindu festivals, arresting dissidents who speak for minorities without even a hope for trial.

which alternate la la land are you living in that expect someone to provide you stats to convince you that India is a hindu rashtra? stop pretending like you are a neutral, trying to understand the other side.

India being a 'HIndu' majority country is just your delusion. If that was true, the 'majority HIndus' wouldnt be taking out rallies against upliftment of their own Hindu bretheren via reservation. In India, those who don't identify as muslims/xian or the several insignificant (but socially well connected to uppercastes) minority religions, are called 'Hindus'. Pretty sure majority of them didn't even know they were Hindu until the govt labeled them as Hindu.

now this 'HIndu' minority is trying to run India pretending like it is the majority. using Muslims as scapegoats to distract the majority while it is pulling the carpet under them.

you are part of that 'HIndu' minority, anxious about losing control and social privilege, trying to pretend like everything hunky dory in India. In reality India is sliding into authoritarian Hindutva modeled state, and will bite your a$$ too one day.

I don't care because I'm no longer living in that hellhole. but sure you have family there, so may be dial down on that muslim hate a bit. Hindu rashtra will come for everybody.

[Raven_Rayes]

On 10/17/2023 at 8:35 PM, pakeer_saab said:

pity your family can live with a retard like you, my family will be perfectly fine me being normal.

celebrating loss of palestinian lives is considered normal human behaviour in your house?

[Raven_Rayes]

On 10/17/2023 at 6:19 PM, vithanda_vadhi said:

It is a political party which majorly represents Hindu. So they have obviously have more Hindu MPs. They gave 6 MP seats to minorities. All lost. If there is a MP from religion you support you would have called him more stronger word than sociopath. What exactly you want them to do? Even if give they ticket to more non-hindu they will loose because no one from other religion vote for them. What exactly you want them to do? 

absolutely.. if that muslim MP in BJP is voting against the interests of Muslims, he will be called names.

you are almost there, sweetie.. you can get it if you try a little harder. Let me peel the banana for you.

BJP is anti-muslim in the worst possible way.. that's why muslims don't vote for them, even if they put up a muslim candidate.

They can reach out to muslims, stop with dehumanizing them, come up with schemes that help them financially and socially, etc. Thats what they have to do. ofcourse they are not going to do that.

Its much easy using Muslims as scapegoat for their politics. 'neutral' people like you will always provide cover for them, even without them spending a single rupee on you.

siggey lekunda etla argue chestunnavo choosko.

 

[Raven_Rayes]

On 10/17/2023 at 2:02 PM, CanadianMalodu said:

Where did I dehumanize them? It's you who calls me 'sanghi'. I don't identify myself as sanghi. 

Most of the terrorists are moslems. That doesn't mean moslems are Sanghis. There are others as well. Regular Indians growing up have seen this. I don't play good cop bad cop. Neither I care about being called sanghi. 

nobody identified themselves as 'nazi', but germans in the 40s were nazis.

almost every political opinion of yours seem to discount even the existence of muslims, or their need as individual human beings, as part of a group that is shamed every day by politicians you support.

you quack like a duck, you are a duck.

its just disgusting that you use your half caste Mala to spread such poison online. I guess that's what happens when people are interested more in caste revival, than being anti-caste. bunch of such idiots (from all the castes you mention about who escaped the harijan status pre 40s) roaming all around TamilNadu claiming imaginary valorious history about their caste, and sucking up to sanghis or Tamil nationalist scum. good luck.