Mahua vs adani

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, Mancode said:

Anthe antav ,dinni valla Desam 10 yrs venaki velipoindi antav

Desham venakki povali ante oka Congress party ke sadhyam. 

 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Desham venakki povali ante oka Congress party ke sadhyam. 

 

Venakki kaadu....Naasanam Congress ke Sadhyam!

[CanadianMalodu]

7 hours ago, Mancode said:

Odiley Basu inni kathalu mingi national resources adanga bhonchestunna adani gadni odilesi kodiguddu meeda ikalu pikutinaru janalu....

Neo liberal world order or the existing world, is moving away control of economy to private enterprise from government. Since the time of late PV Narasimha Rao this was what was done to the Indian economy. They call it  "liberalization".  Now electoral expenses in India need to be borne by political parties and they need funds for that. They rely on businesses for this. Now having said that how is Adani to BJP any different from what contractors and businesses that do work for TDP, YSRCP, or what Megha Krishna Reddi's does for Dora or what Marans do for DMK, say what GMR,  Subbirami reddy, Sharad Pawar had done for Congress.  All of them get money from natural resources of the nation.  

If any Adani is doing it in an organized manner just like those of American firms.  In return Adanis shall bear the election expenses and interests of BJP.  This is probably way more efficient way than local hafta or Mamool system perpetuated in routine handling of contracts. Cuts down the goons, dadas, police, beaurocracy involved this cutting down the % wastage.

[Mancode]

11 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Why do think Modi and Co. is not doing anything? Playing politics doesn't mean you will file cases and prove them in only court. It more nuanced. World politics are different game altogether. You see only faces in the front not the schemers. Hard to trace them and establish a case and prosecute them. 

Right now they are dealing with faces, of which Ms. Moitra is one.

lol ni degara chala stuff undiga 

salil shetty antunav , victoria nuland antunav, moitra antunav mari modi ki ennni telsi undochu

[Mancode]

3 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Neo liberal world order or the existing world, is moving away control of economy to private enterprise from government. Since the time of late PV Narasimha Rao this was what was done to the Indian economy. They call it  "liberalization".  Now electoral expenses in India need to be borne by political parties and they need funds for that. They rely on businesses for this. Now having said that how is Adani to BJP any different from what contractors and businesses that do work for TDP, YSRCP, or what Megha Krishna Reddi's does for Dora or what Marans do for DMK, say what GMR,  Subbirami reddy, Sharad Pawar had done for Congress.  All of them get money from natural resources of the nation.  

If any Adani is doing it in an organized manner just like those of American firms.  In return Adanis shall bear the election expenses and interests of BJP.  This is probably way more efficient way than local hafta or Mamool system perpetuated in routine handling of contracts. Cuts down the goons, dadas, police, beaurocracy involved this cutting down the % wastage.

Black mailing other businesses through ED,CBI and acquiring them ,nothing but a kabza , adani & co chestundi adhe ,so there is lot of difference ,lite tisko

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, Mancode said:

Black mailing other businesses through ED,CBI and acquiring them ,nothing but a kabza , adani & co chestundi adhe ,so there is lot of difference ,lite tisko

CBI and ED ki business bayapadi ammesaru antunnav, ee tappu cheyyanodu bayapadam deniki? Cases ni court fight chesukovachu kadha. Ramoji Rao margadarshi case fighting chesadu kadha alane chesukovachu kadha. 

Adani group ki Israel, Australia lo ports coal mines ela vachayai? ED , CBI akkada levu kadha?

[Sam480]

9 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

CBI and ED ki business bayapadi ammesaru antunnav, ee tappu cheyyanodu bayapadam deniki? Cases ni court fight chesukovachu kadha. Ramoji Rao margadarshi case fighting chesadu kadha alane chesukovachu kadha. 

Adani group ki Israel, Australia lo ports coal mines ela vachayai? ED , CBI akkada levu kadha?

Ambani gurinchi telidu kani. Adani ayte mottam scam ee ani andariki telsu. but enquiry cheyaru

[CanadianMalodu]

16 minutes ago, Sam480 said:

Ambani gurinchi telidu kani. Adani ayte mottam scam ee ani andariki telsu. but enquiry cheyaru

Scam ento cheppochu kadha, memu kooda telusukuntamu.

[CanadianMalodu]

2 hours ago, Mancode said:

lol ni degara chala stuff undiga 

salil shetty antunav , victoria nuland antunav, moitra antunav mari modi ki ennni telsi undochu

Andhuke Moitra ni nokkuthunnaru. NGO guise lo chese regime change panulanntini thokkadaniki FCRA licence ni Modi govt. revoke cheyyadam modalapettindhi. Oxfam was not spared. Open society and even Ford foundation ni watchlist lo pettindhi.  Suspicious ga unna other NGOs ni prior permission category lo pettindhi. $0®0$ open society moved to Supreme court but lost as Supreme court upheld FCRA act. $0®0$ open society funds students and creates a base then uses them to leverage power. US lo best example Vivek Ramaswamy. 

Which is why I said faces(deceptive) and their modus operandi can be clamped not  the Schemers. Modi and Indian government can't touch $0®0$ forget prosecuting him. In the hierarchy of global power structure $0®0$ is way above Modi. He is a BILDERBERGER, World Economic Forum (WEF) member and a close associate of R0th$child$. 

 

[Mancode]

4 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Andhuke Moitra ni nokkuthunnaru. NGO guise lo chese regime change panulanntini thokkadaniki FCRA licence ni Modi govt. revoke cheyyadam modalapettindhi. Oxfam was not spared. Open society and even Ford foundation ni watchlist lo pettindhi.  Suspicious ga unna other NGOs ni prior permission category lo pettindhi. $0®0$ open society moved to Supreme court but lost as Supreme court upheld FCRA act. $0®0$ open society funds students and creates a base then uses them to leverage power. US lo best example Vivek Ramaswamy. 

Which is why I said faces(deceptive) and their modus operandi can be clamped not  the Schemers. Modi and Indian government can't touch $0®0$ forget prosecuting him. In the hierarchy of global power structure $0®0$ is way above Modi. He is a BILDERBERGER, World Economic Forum (WEF) member and a close associate of R0th$child$. 

 

FCRAs ni watchlist lo pettadam saripodhu, they should be blocked ,if govt have any evidence prosecute them , people who have their FCRA ngos , they change their names when they are even blocked , so prosecuting them is only solution , adhi thappa anni chestharu RW handles on Twitter and whatsapp....

[Mancode]

5 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

CBI and ED ki business bayapadi ammesaru antunnav, ee tappu cheyyanodu bayapadam deniki? Cases ni court fight chesukovachu kadha. Ramoji Rao margadarshi case fighting chesadu kadha alane chesukovachu kadha. 

Adani group ki Israel, Australia lo ports coal mines ela vachayai? ED , CBI akkada levu kadha?

E tappu cheyakunda ante ?

India lo deviations cheyakunda business cheyadam ante kukkka thoka pettakhunda godari idinatte too many rules and regulations... Being ethics is one thing being moral is another ,so ..lite tisko...

ED,CBI,IT,SEBI,DRI became tools of adani & co 

[Raven_Rayes]

5 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Andhuke Moitra ni nokkuthunnaru. NGO guise lo chese regime change panulanntini thokkadaniki FCRA licence ni Modi govt. revoke cheyyadam modalapettindhi. Oxfam was not spared. Open society and even Ford foundation ni watchlist lo pettindhi.  Suspicious ga unna other NGOs ni prior permission category lo pettindhi. $0®0$ open society moved to Supreme court but lost as Supreme court upheld FCRA act. $0®0$ open society funds students and creates a base then uses them to leverage power. US lo best example Vivek Ramaswamy. 

Which is why I said faces(deceptive) and their modus operandi can be clamped not  the Schemers. Modi and Indian government can't touch $0®0$ forget prosecuting him. In the hierarchy of global power structure $0®0$ is way above Modi. He is a BILDERBERGER, World Economic Forum (WEF) member and a close associate of R0th$child$.

this is the kind of brain damage that happens when one takes the construct of a 'nation' way too seriously.

a normal person reading the crap you dish out will be interested to ask - 'okay in the midst of all this power struggle between Soros and Adani (both of them assholes), whats in it for me?'.. coz obviously what's good for Adani cannot always be good for those who live in India.

but this db is not visited by normal people, so I'm pretty sure you'll find a nice following in here.

handwaving about power games that someone else plays somewhere is more entertaining (and less useful), than centering discussions about justice. Unless you think justice is what the victor dishes out. In that case, I hope India loses. I don't trust Indians to be just anyway.

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, Mancode said:

E tappu cheyakunda ante ?

India lo deviations cheyakunda business cheyadam ante kukkka thoka pettakhunda godari idinatte too many rules and regulations... Being ethics is one thing being moral is another ,so ..lite tisko...

ED,CBI,IT,SEBI,DRI became tools of adani & co 

If you are talking about Adani's takeover of GVK airport, then the first question should be how did GVK get their hands on Mumbai airport in the first place? They did not have the experience of running an airport of this size previously nor were they local to Mumbai although that was not the criterion. 

GVK who had the only experience of operating a smaller airport, how did they get their hands on India's second busiest airport when major players were competing in the bidding? They were going to be bankrupt; they had spent a billion $'s on just art inside the airport and do you really think they would be able to make money from this airport? GVK would have fallen soon even if not taken over by Adani.

GVK played their cards and got their hands on this airport, and then Adani played their cards to grab. another decade and it may change hands again.

[Mancode]

1 hour ago, Android_Halwa said:

If you are talking about Adani's takeover of GVK airport, then the first question should be how did GVK get their hands on Mumbai airport in the first place? They did not have the experience of running an airport of this size previously nor were they local to Mumbai although that was not the criterion. 

GVK who had the only experience of operating a smaller airport, how did they get their hands on India's second busiest airport when major players were competing in the bidding? They were going to be bankrupt; they had spent a billion $'s on just art inside the airport and do you really think they would be able to make money from this airport? GVK would have fallen soon even if not taken over by Adani.

GVK played their cards and got their hands on this airport, and then Adani played their cards to grab. another decade and it may change hands again.

Not only that annaya 

Chala unai stories 

A ED ,CBI,IT,SEBI notices to a company and case will be filed and backroom negotiations starts ,this is blatant tactic if you see these 9 yrs acquisitions of adani.

Case by case list chepalante rendu moodu paralu rayali opika ledu ...

The bigger costs of the state-backed acquisition model

Mumbai airport ,gangavaram port, krishnapatnam port ,NDTV 
 

“I have just won a PLI,” said the managing director of a South Indian company, referring to the government’s production-linked incentive scheme. “I am worried that the resultant higher profile might make me an acquisition target.”

As a result, firms are seeking strategic investors as a hedge against a hostile takeover by Adani. GMR, for instance, has sold a 49% stake in its airport business to France’s ADP. “They are owned by the French government and so, it is hard to bully them,” said a senior executive in GMR’s airports business. Even the executive whose firm bagged the PLI is scouting for strategic investors.

A second big cost lies in the monopolisation that accompanies such untrammelled expansion. In 2021, after acquiring Gangavaram, Adani announced an additional charge of $3/tonne on Capesize vessels offloading only a part of their cargo at Adani-owned Dhamra, Krishnapatnam and Gangavaram before moving, with a reduced draft, to other ports. The decision was decried by critics as an attempt to monopolise traffic in these large vessels.

In Gangavaram itself, Adani is facing complaints about the abuse of market position – like a hike in its coal tariffs for the Vizag Steel Plant, with predictable impacts on the bottom line of the state-owned steel maker. 

Coal importers who baulk at the terms set for using Gangavaram can only use the Vizag port now. “Our fear is that [someone] will next use the fear of pollution to shut down coal handling at Vizag port,” said the owner of a small coal importing firm in Vizag. At the same time, with coal stocks at Gangavaram rising steeply, locals in Gangavaram village told The Wire about heightened pollution, breathing trouble and are now demanding that the government relocate their village.

The Wire asked Adani to comment on these allegations. In its emailed response, however, the company didn’t answer the question.

There are other costs and consequences too. Once Adani acquired Krishnapatnam in 2020, large users of the port – like JSW – got worried. The steel-maker scrambled to acquire Chettinad Cements’ port business. “If the JSW-Chettinad deal happens, Krishnapatnam port will be the big loser because 5-6 million tonnes of cargo which are currently shipped by JSW through Krishnapatnam will shift entirely to the terminals acquired by JSW,” Business Line quoted a port industry executive tracking the deal as saying just before the deal was finalised. “JSW is under strategic pressure to have its own terminals for handling group cargo without being at the mercy of Krishnapatnam port with attendant pricing risks… The strategic urgency for JSW acquiring Chettinad has thus grown after Krishnapatnam was bought by Adani. If it happens, Krishnapatnam will lose revenue of at least Rs 150 crore,” he said.

Shortly after the JSW-Chettinad deal went through, there were income tax raids on Chettinad Cements in December 2020.

And then, there are the national costs – like concentration risk for the economy. “You cannot have all eggs in one basket,” said a relative of Gangavaram promoter D.V.S. Raju. “Help a hundred companies grow. Or the whole sector will get into trouble.”

In the post-Hindenburg world, this fear is coming true. “Ports and airports are cash guzzlers,” said the port executive. “As Adani freezes its capex, what happens to its plans of expanding its ports? What are the national implications of the country’s biggest port operator not adding fresh capacity?”

The short-seller’s report adds another complication as well. If Adani’s cash crunch worsens – and he is compelled to sell some of these concessions – there is no telling who might pick up critical Indian infrastructure like ports. As Forbes reported recently, Vinod Adani had pledged shares with Russia’s tainted VTB Bank.

And then, there is the political economy question of cronyism, both at the national and state levels. “Over the last four years, we have seen a sea change,” said the head of an Andhra Pradesh-based renewables company. “Companies are being forced to [exit]. This has especially picked up since the 2019 election.” Like many The Wire spoke with for this story, he did not want to be identified.

In the past, governments have doled out favours to preferred companies. We are now seeing something new. The charge now being made by businessmen and the opposition is that ruling parties are helping their preferred firms annex their peers.

According to them, this represents a malign evolution in the use of political power in India – and transcends existing definitions of crony capitalism. This also suggests that the problem is not of help being given to just one or two corporate groups. “We will see many more large acquisitions backed by political parties in the next 10 years,” said a former member of the state planning board for Andhra Pradesh.

As the social contract between the people and political parties comes under strain, it is vital that institutions tasked with regulating the corporate sector do the job they are supposed to. So far, however, there is little sign of that. 

another link 

https://thewire.in/business/adanis-acquisitions-india-needs-to-keep-track-costs

Gangavaram port Raju meeda aithe asalu casele Lev apudo 10 yrs back some dollars foreign country nunchi vachai for small violation meeda blackmail chesi gangavaram port tiskunaru....

[Mancode]

1 hour ago, Android_Halwa said:

If you are talking about Adani's takeover of GVK airport, then the first question should be how did GVK get their hands on Mumbai airport in the first place? They did not have the experience of running an airport of this size previously nor were they local to Mumbai although that was not the criterion. 

GVK who had the only experience of operating a smaller airport, how did they get their hands on India's second busiest airport when major players were competing in the bidding? They were going to be bankrupt; they had spent a billion $'s on just art inside the airport and do you really think they would be able to make money from this airport? GVK would have fallen soon even if not taken over by Adani.

GVK played their cards and got their hands on this airport, and then Adani played their cards to grab. another decade and it may change hands again.

Inkaa stock manipulations gurinchi hindenberg report discussed widely 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://hindenburgresearch.com/adani/&ved=2ahUKEwiz0J_P2r2CAxVPkWoFHaFKDi0QFnoECBAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0frHOgS4x7GFyBwyWGbRsD

Srilankan minister statement 

https://x.com/hatefreeworldX/status/1535964758863536129?s=20

Idhi inko story 

Australian coal imports and how it has much inflated prices 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/explained-the-allegations-on-adani-coal-imports/article67431815.ece/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwins_aA272CAxWklmoFHcxRA1oQFigAegQIEBAE&usg=AOvVaw2UYlUa6DiymGwYRfPI2Goo