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7 minutes ago, Mancode said:

Chala unai stories 

A ED ,CBI,IT,SEBI notices to a company and case will be filed and backroom negotiations starts ,this is blatant tactic if you see these 9 yrs acquisitions of adani.

Of course. A corporation that has been in the business for quite some time will have its own stories and that’s not surprising at all. 

CBI and ED tho bedirichi business kani chestunaru anedi its just a mode of operation. Pre 2014, business and business deals ayinayi, corporation takesovers jariginayi kani CBI and ED okk case kuda file cheyakunda ayindi….is that the point of concern here ?

How did coal allocation happened ? 2G spectrum, Cement companies Ki water and like stone quarries allotment etc anni tra parent ga jariginaya ? Spicejet was snatched from its owner literally…Mafia and Underworld financed Jet Airways, Reliance became multinational conglomerate in Congress’s time, Jindal and JSW promoters political affiliation telisinde, velalndaru deals chesinaru but they did in their own style, now BJP era lo they are doing in their own way. Output and end result is just the same…

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6 minutes ago, Mancode said:

These stories are nothing….back in 90’s, Dhirubhai Ambani mida kuda everyday Edo oka allegation vuntunde…vuntayi kuda..! 
 

Ie matram allegation lekunda India la billionaire avadam kastam le….manipulation, Govt favors, etc is part of the system and it’s nothing new….at least not surprising to me.

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29 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Of course. A corporation that has been in the business for quite some time will have its own stories and that’s not surprising at all. 

CBI and ED tho bedirichi business kani chestunaru anedi its just a mode of operation. Pre 2014, business and business deals ayinayi, corporation takesovers jariginayi kani CBI and ED okk case kuda file cheyakunda ayindi….is that the point of concern here ?

How did coal allocation happened ? 2G spectrum, Cement companies Ki water and like stone quarries allotment etc anni tra parent ga jariginaya ? Spicejet was snatched from its owner literally…Mafia and Underworld financed Jet Airways, Reliance became multinational conglomerate in Congress’s time, Jindal and JSW promoters political affiliation telisinde, velalndaru deals chesinaru but they did in their own style, now BJP era lo they are doing in their own way. Output and end result is just the same…

of course aiundochu those never came into public , no news about it , someone accquiring or kabzaing a company like that , using govt machinery , last i heard was india cements-raasi cements deal , but thats a one off case

i dont know the spicejet case 

jet airways naresh goyal funder to bjp too , everyone in the top league knows he has dawood money in his company , but vajpayee never took action on him , growth all happend in early 2000's , whose govt it is both bjp and congress , i read  a story some RW handle posted some info was reached to finance ministry about naresh goyal's ill gotten money but ministry never acted around 2003 

here we are seeing multiple , and blantant abuse of power 

govt favours is one thing , pre tender info leaking in 2g case , cement companies ki water supply ysr time , ivvanni oka level , here govt acting as a tool and even harrasing non political affaliation people and asking them to sell for adani...this shouldn't be the case in any democracy , it will reach a point like where russian oligarchy made money  and people suffered ..

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10 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

These stories are nothing….back in 90’s, Dhirubhai Ambani mida kuda everyday Edo oka allegation vuntunde…vuntayi kuda..! 
 

Ie matram allegation lekunda India la billionaire avadam kastam le….manipulation, Govt favors, etc is part of the system and it’s nothing new….at least not surprising to me.

true but at that journalists are courageous to bring stories in public domain , now all journalists in RW or LW sold out ...

ambani never went against goenka 

But are you not close to Wadia?
A. Dhirubhai Ambani was as close to me - even closer - as Nusli. He was generous. He always responded to me when I asked for donations to charities. I did not know Wadia until 1975. In fact, Ambani was my frierid and I saw more of him in 1985 than I did Wadia. But Ambani was doing things to try and circumvent the entire government system.

 Did you feel sad at having to launch a campaign against a friend?
A. There was a reason for what happened. In October 1985, The Economic Times published a story about a CBI inquiry into the opening of backdated letters of credit by Reliance worth Rs 100 crore. Ambani sent a letter of rebuttal to PTI - the news agency I was chairman of - stating that the news item was engineered by a DMT-producing textile company unable to produce quality DMT and in dire financial straits. The obvious reference was to Bombay Dyeing. When PTI ran the item, Nani Palkhivala - also on the PTI board - called it to my attention and asked my advice on what should be done as another company's name had been dragged in without evidence. So I had to write an apology, PTI had never before apologised to anybody. I also found out that there had been pressure on the PTI desk to run the Ambani rebuttal. So, I went to Dhirubhai and said, 'You are pulling down a public institution - PTI. You should have some values.' He gave me a reply that I would rather not go into with you but that is where I felt that his approach was highly prejudicial to the country. In fact that was the starting point of my investigation into Reliance's affairs.

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26 minutes ago, Mancode said:

true but at that journalists are courageous to bring stories in public domain , now all journalists in RW or LW sold out ...

ambani never went against Goenka

Journalists have to present their findings in two ways. In support of or against. It's not the era where journalists have any credibility. Our own homegrown media houses like ABN, Eenadu, and Sakshi are the best examples of how the truth is twisted to suit the presenter's agenda.

Corruption, Manipulation, and rigging the government policies are part of the system and it has been prevalent for a long time. Just because the model of operation changed, nothing will change on the balance sheets which is driven by greed, a typical capitalistic economy.

India is moving away from a socialist mindset to a capitalistic mindset...we will see such exposes, and criticism for another decade too, but nothing will change in the way corporations work. The same Adani will fund Congress if political fortunes reverse for BJP in 2024.

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2 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

If you are talking about Adani's takeover of GVK airport, then the first question should be how did GVK get their hands on Mumbai airport in the first place? They did not have the experience of running an airport of this size previously nor were they local to Mumbai although that was not the criterion. 

GVK who had the only experience of operating a smaller airport, how did they get their hands on India's second busiest airport when major players were competing in the bidding? They were going to be bankrupt; they had spent a billion $'s on just art inside the airport and do you really think they would be able to make money from this airport? GVK would have fallen soon even if not taken over by Adani.

GVK played their cards and got their hands on this airport, and then Adani played their cards to grab. another decade and it may change hands again.

Lagadapati got super duper rich thanks to Congress govt and father-in-law connections. Bejawada MP seat was cherry on the cake. 

Each govt will cause certain group of businessmen to flourish and another group to fail.

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40 minutes ago, Mancode said:

true but at that journalists are courageous to bring stories in public domain , now all journalists in RW or LW sold out ...

ambani never went against goenka 

But are you not close to Wadia?
A. Dhirubhai Ambani was as close to me - even closer - as Nusli. He was generous. He always responded to me when I asked for donations to charities. I did not know Wadia until 1975. In fact, Ambani was my frierid and I saw more of him in 1985 than I did Wadia. But Ambani was doing things to try and circumvent the entire government system.

 Did you feel sad at having to launch a campaign against a friend?
A. There was a reason for what happened. In October 1985, The Economic Times published a story about a CBI inquiry into the opening of backdated letters of credit by Reliance worth Rs 100 crore. Ambani sent a letter of rebuttal to PTI - the news agency I was chairman of - stating that the news item was engineered by a DMT-producing textile company unable to produce quality DMT and in dire financial straits. The obvious reference was to Bombay Dyeing. When PTI ran the item, Nani Palkhivala - also on the PTI board - called it to my attention and asked my advice on what should be done as another company's name had been dragged in without evidence. So I had to write an apology, PTI had never before apologised to anybody. I also found out that there had been pressure on the PTI desk to run the Ambani rebuttal. So, I went to Dhirubhai and said, 'You are pulling down a public institution - PTI. You should have some values.' He gave me a reply that I would rather not go into with you but that is where I felt that his approach was highly prejudicial to the country. In fact that was the starting point of my investigation into Reliance's affairs.

I heard Wadia supported Janata Dal and Congress countered by supporting the rival Ambani.

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23 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Journalists have to present their findings in two ways. In support of or against. It's not the era where journalists have any credibility. Our own homegrown media houses like ABN, Eenadu, and Sakshi are the best examples of how the truth is twisted to suit the presenter's agenda.

Corruption, Manipulation, and rigging the government policies are part of the system and it has been prevalent for a long time. Just because the model of operation changed, nothing will change on the balance sheets which is driven by greed, a typical capitalistic economy.

India is moving away from a socialist mindset to a capitalistic mindset...we will see such exposes, and criticism for another decade too, but nothing will change in the way corporations work. The same Adani will fund Congress if political fortunes reverse for BJP in 2024.

but that doesnt generalises everything

your part is these happend but never came out or people at that time less cared about

me - yes happend , but not like govt arm twisting other buyers and making out one way 

lets leave it there 

press yeah its lost credibility , even Hindu & indian express lost its standards ..

much of big business dont worry about press anymore , they are thinking press is for tabloid and can be used to advertise thats all

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1 hour ago, Android_Halwa said:

Of course. A corporation that has been in the business for quite some time will have its own stories and that’s not surprising at all. 

CBI and ED tho bedirichi business kani chestunaru anedi its just a mode of operation. Pre 2014, business and business deals ayinayi, corporation takesovers jariginayi kani CBI and ED okk case kuda file cheyakunda ayindi….is that the point of concern here ?

How did coal allocation happened ? 2G spectrum, Cement companies Ki water and like stone quarries allotment etc anni tra parent ga jariginaya ? Spicejet was snatched from its owner literally…Mafia and Underworld financed Jet Airways, Reliance became multinational conglomerate in Congress’s time, Jindal and JSW promoters political affiliation telisinde, velalndaru deals chesinaru but they did in their own style, now BJP era lo they are doing in their own way. Output and end result is just the same…

What happened with Spicejet? Who was owner and who snatched it from them?

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3 hours ago, Raven_Rayes said:

this is the kind of brain damage that happens when one takes the construct of a 'nation' way too seriously.

a normal person reading the crap you dish out will be interested to ask - 'okay in the midst of all this power struggle between Soros and Adani (both of them assholes), whats in it for me?'.. coz obviously what's good for Adani cannot always be good for those who live in India.

but this db is not visited by normal people, so I'm pretty sure you'll find a nice following in here.

handwaving about power games that someone else plays somewhere is more entertaining (and less useful), than centering discussions about justice. Unless you think justice is what the victor dishes out. In that case, I hope India loses. I don't trust Indians to be just anyway.

Unfortunately it's not just me but many hundreds of thousands of people have given up their lives by putting their notion of 'nation' above their lives. Globalism is never about giving power to masses, but to enslave them permanently. The only thing that in between is the 'nationalist leaders'. Once they are gone, you will be left out to thieves and dacoits. 

 

What's in it for you? You need to pick a side as there is no middle ground. The consequences of globalism are well known, and are already seen in Iraq, Syria,Libya, Ukraine and debt slavery has crushed the likes of Pakistan and Srilanka. I don't want India to join their club.

Where is justice, if the leadership is infiltrated? Go ahead full throttle, and trust globalists than your fellow Indians. No one is stopping you from doing that.

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2 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Unfortunately it's not just me but many hundreds of thousands of people have given up their lives by putting their notion of 'nation' above their lives. Globalism is never about giving power to masses, but to enslave them permanently. The only thing that in between is the 'nationalist leaders'. Once they are gone, you will be left out to thieves and dacoits. 

 

What's in it for you? You need to pick a side as there is no middle ground. The consequences of globalism are well known, and are already seen in Iraq, Syria,Libya, Ukraine and debt slavery has crushed the likes of Pakistan and Srilanka. I don't want India to join their club.

Where is justice, if the leadership is infiltrated? Go ahead full throttle, and trust globalists than your fellow Indians. No one is stopping you from doing that.

you don't put your life above any 'nation'.. pls don't make me laugh. If you did, you wouldn't be using your countrymen as pawns in some game you pretend to understand.

I don't know what globalist is. I trust myself. I have some skills, will continue to add more skills to my arsenal, and will trade them with others to live comfortably as long as I have the strength in me to do so. I don't need some fcuking nation, or globalist to do anything.

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3 minutes ago, venkappa said:

What happened with Spicejet? Who was owner and who snatched it from them?

Ajay Singh is the founder and chairman of Spicejet. In 2009's when aviation was going through a tough phase, SpiceJet also faced losses but was better among other carriers. PSU banks stopped lending to SpiceJet in 2009, that was the phase when interest rates were all-time high, and borrowing from private markets was ruled out, as high ATF taxes and a government that was not favorable to SpiceJet.

And then, Kalanidhi Maran enters the game, infuses SpiceJet with much-needed liquidity, and picks up a stake for nothing. Apparently, Kalanidhi Maran wanted to get into aviation in 2009 and engaged in negotiations with SpiceJet but were not fruitful. in 2010, with the government on its side, Kalanidhi bagged SpiceJet's stake for nothing and became the single largest stakeholder. Just by investing, Maran picks up all the stakes held by Ajay Sharma, and Ajay is now exited from Spice Jet.

By 2015, the same situation repeated and SpiceJet ran into losses, PSUs did not show interest in lending money to the airline and in the same way Kalanidhi gained control of the airline had to relinquish the control to Ajay Sharma again in 2015. 

Just in case if you no aware, Ajay Singh is very close to Modi and has overseen India's most successful political campaign in 2019 and said to be behind coining the tagline 'Ab ki baar modi sarkar'

#Sweet_Revenge

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